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Post by noasinger on Oct 24, 2006 9:42:57 GMT -5
I've moved on to the OpAphid mystery now :] OpAphid is fascinating in ways ciw only fantasized about in their collective wet dreams.....
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Post by harlequin on Oct 24, 2006 11:40:19 GMT -5
do we even kno if the creators read these forums? or do they only read the LG15.com stuff?
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Post by jayhenry on Oct 24, 2006 12:15:23 GMT -5
They definitely read the forums here. But it's hard to say how often unless the mods know which accounts they use. I saw Yousef on the cove within the last week.
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flwright
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Post by flwright on Oct 24, 2006 17:48:14 GMT -5
Hi Guys!
I’ve tried my hardest to give the Three Wise Men the benefit of a doubt about this video. Writing good fiction is difficult because it’s hard to keep it real. That means keeping the continuity hiccups to a minimum, keeping the characters true to themselves, and keeping track of your lies.
After a big fight in Episode 37(Driving Lessons) and a bigger blowup in Episodes 39 (Daniel’s Equinox Whine) and 40 (My Last Vlog), there has been no direct communication between Bree and Daniel outside of videos. It would appear that Daniel (and Bree’s parents) knew when the ceremony would be at this point.
The first stalker video (and the supposed rational for the deception) was Episode 41. Daniel stalked and stalked and went to the Tentwelf O’Six Ceremony because he was concerned about Bree and because he seemed to have no other way of communicating this concern to her .
Contrary to Cassie’s opinion, Bree is not a very good face-to-face liar. And when she’s deceived someone, there’s always been remorse (at least they’re consistent here). She cares a lot for Daniel. She is willful and stubborn when someone tells her to do something she doesn’t want to do. She fundamentally trusts people but she’s thoughtfully skeptical about what people tell her.
Bree knew Daniel was stalking her and told him to stop it twice. Why would she participate in a lie to goad him into stalking her yet again? She wouldn’t go along with Lucy’s deception for a minute if she suspected that Daniel would be hurt. The lie was a major production and it involved an entire army of extras. She must’ve asked why and would not have accepted “just because” for an answer. Her exposition just doesn’t hold water.
The Creators could have led us to the same plot moment without having Bree lie to Daniel. Lucy could’ve orchestrated the fake without Bree’s direct involvement. Now, that would’ve been good fiction.
Are do-overs allowed with this “new art form”?
Sigh,
FLWright
<edit>Grammer Goof, see we all get do overs!<edit>
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Post by noasinger on Oct 24, 2006 18:21:08 GMT -5
Also.. if the ceremony was a lie and Bree knew it was a lie, and she knew that Daniel was sure to be out there, we should have gotten a furtive glance-around during the reveal when her hood was pulled back. None of this really rings true now.
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trash180
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Post by trash180 on Oct 24, 2006 19:21:59 GMT -5
Perhaps I'll feel better about this if we get a Daniel video and he expresses how betrayed he feels. He'll be like "SSoooo FAKE!! FAKER!! I'LL NEVER LOVE AGAIN!!!"
It just makes me hesitant to invest in it anymore. It was fun looking into all the weird little things that were alluded to in the videos, in a way it all seemed like it could connect and be part of the bigger picture, but if it's just going to be undone, then what's the point?
Like the Zodiac of Denderah...just a smoke screen for Daniel? I mean, what's real? It just left me going "wha?" and made me not care enough to make up a reason why it makes sense.
So many other things could have happened to make this work.
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Post by morninglory on Oct 24, 2006 20:15:08 GMT -5
I think the reason I'm dissapointed is because when we were spending late night hours analyzing every single little clue, right down to the position of stuffed animals on the floor, we were basically assuming that these creators were smart enough to leave all of these little clues. At the beginning I approached these videos as extremely thought out and having each little clue matter. Now i'm starting to realize they're almost as lost as we are. Suddenly analyzing nail polish or positions of things or pictures on a door are insignificant, when all they really want us to look at are the obvious shots she's getting, or listening to exactly what comes out of her mouth. It's not so much a game, just a tv show at this point. One that's impossible to predict, not only because they don't know what they're doing yet, but also because they're not really put together enough to foreshadow cleverly. I don't mean to bash them so much. But now I get it..it's just a couple of guys with an idea. There's not a genius behind all this.
With that being said, I hope I'm wrong! haha
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Post by dannie717 on Oct 24, 2006 20:22:29 GMT -5
morninglory, i really hope you're wrong too, but from here, it doesn't look like it.... i liked the original idea they seemed to have in the beginning, but right now it just looks like a big let down. oh well, at least they really have made it a "new art form", so directors with experience and a good plan can move in. but, i dunno maybe they really do know what they are doing. o.0
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Joss
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Post by Joss on Oct 25, 2006 3:28:06 GMT -5
I don't mean to bash them so much. But now I get it..it's just a couple of guys with an idea. There's not a genius behind all this. With that being said, I hope I'm wrong! haha I agree.. And I even dare to say something more: There probably was a genius behind all this but not anymore.. The dialogues, the editing, the acting, all of it seems to be going worst every video.
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Post by curiousgeorge on May 11, 2007 20:42:01 GMT -5
Pic courtesy of a Luminous at the Phorum, time line courtesy of the Cranky Monkey: The moment IT happened...
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Post by surrealisticpill on May 11, 2007 22:33:16 GMT -5
hahaha that's great Pic courtesy of a Luminous at the Phorum, time line courtesy of the Cranky Monkey: The moment IT happened...
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