Poor Pluto [9.5.06]

[mettle]

Blackjack is legitimately someone other than BF:
alissabrooke.proboards56.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=intro&thread=1157507373&page=1#1157507373

So if he's posting, it's as someone else.

virginia said:

"Stargirl" is the screenname of a sporadic poster on the haxan.com forums.
www.haxan.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=259;sa=showPosts

She's also the sister of Neal Fredericks, the DP on "The Blair Witch Project."

I'm almost positive Mike Monello of Haxan said something to me about her when we were discussing lg15.

I think the Stargirl reference, like much of the "Lonelygirl Press Conference," is Brian Flemming's shout-out to others in the unfiction/ARG community, who may or may not be involved. I also think it might be Flemming's voice in the "Lonelygirl Press Conference." Has someone else said this? Or heard him speak and can double-check?

[Passer inassatus]

Poor Pluto just showed up on Revver
www.revver.com/video/57407/

Is it just me, or is the video compression a little rougher compared to the other revver clips?

[Terryfic]

Yeah, it is not quite as crisp. I would just like to add to the idea that this video is an allusion to her new internet friends, by pointing out that the shot of her reading pluto’s new ‘friends’ is very similar to the shot of her reading the names of the commenters that suggested recipes in the Cookie video.

[wixy15]

Not that this matters, but I just watched it again and while see is on camera she dosen't blink once. Unless I missed a sneaky one.

[dontpush]

terryfic said:

Yeah, it is not quite as crisp. I would just like to add to the idea that this video is an allusion to her new internet friends, by pointing out that the shot of her reading pluto’s new ‘friends’ is very similar to the shot of her reading the names of the commenters that suggested recipes in the Cookie video.

I think this is because she was reading both off a computer screen. i.e. she didn't know the names of the three things she mentioned. Though the similarity is there.

[johngreen]

This is a picture of Neal Fredericks' two siblings:

stargirl.netfirms.com/picturepro/nfpicturepro/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=11

Neither of them appears to bree. If they're involved, I don't know how/why. "Stargirl" is a fairly common handle, though (for instance, I found it on about 5,223,520 million forums).

Aren't we sure that the lg15 press conference was NOT the work of Flemming? Or could it be that blackjack and Flemming are friends? (Blackjack, btw, never posted in the old forum, and posts a lot in this one; just like game theory; however, blackjack does teach in Nebraska.)

-John
www.sparksflyup.com

[piscin]

Hey,

Can anyone make out the cover of the book behind Bree on the bed?

[hookedonmonics]

It looks to me like an open book or magazine. at 1:02, the page it's open to changes. also, doesn't the lighting seem inconsistent while she's lying on the bed talking about the mean kids at school? at 1:12, it gets darker, then lighter again at 1:30.

[clarrisa]

morninglory said:

so her new friends are the opposite of angels, meaning bree is hanging out with devils. We've gone in a circle! haha, jk.

a perfect circle, no less.

[radiohead88]

Regarding Bree and her family being "not wealthy"...

I noticed in her video "Daniel Returns, and More Interesting Factoids (Yay!)", the back pockets on her jean shorts have the signature Abercrombie & Fitch stitching. If they are from Abercrombie, it could possibly disprove the theory that she isn't wealthy. I myself am middle class and I hardly ever shop there because it's so expensive... Jeans are usually around $70-80! Also, would her "strict" parents let her shop at a place where almost naked models cover the walls? Of course, it's possible she went out and bought them herself, but.. I believe that if her parents really are as strict as some people believe them to be, she wouldn't have been allowed to shop there. OR maybe her parents aren't strict about what she wears because she's homeschooled.

Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it

Some pictures:

Example of back pockets of Abercrombie jeans


Screenshot from video

[jayhenry]

From the Pluto comments, check out our very own HyeMew:
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Delaypat
Star girl...Thats an awesome name! I would have totally laughed and said something like, "You call me Star Girl but your name is *enter random name here*, My name is cooler than yours!"

lonelygirl15
lol that would've been a good comeback

HyeMew
Yes that would've been a good one Delaypat.. in the alternate universe those same kids accused Bree of being from. Other than that, it'd suck.
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iheartm0nkey
: ) i love stars. There's just soooo many of them!!
You're awesome Bree, Don't change for stupid people. Keep being who you are.

lonelygirl15
thanks m0nkey
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And that's it, only two comments...

[rainmaker]

Holy shit! First, I post up about the whole movie promotion theory. I said that perhaps the reason the main character in the movie has turned away from Christ is because something happened to the mom.

I then read this thread on the new Pluto vid and noticed the emphasis on the no rings things. I then re-watch the beginning of the Tolstoy vid (I watched it the first time because I'm still new and I never saw it). I noticed that when her father walks into her room, near the beginning of the video, he turns and you can see that he is not wearing a wedding ring!!!!!!!

I'm sorry. I am overly excited. I would like to believe that I am right about this whole movie plot and what the significance of the mother never being motioned, only the parents and her father.

Edited to say that I am keeping in mind that Flemming has "hinted" at us to concentrate NOT on the girl, but on the Game.

[hookedonmonics]

According to bree, Bree's mom said she's help Bree learn her exercizes. It's unlikely anything has happened to her... yet. HEY! Maybe Bree needs to learn exorcizes, not exercizes.

[stantheman]

Some loose ends:

1. "Poor" is an ironic modifier for Pluto, considering that plutocrats are supremely wealthy.

2. Pluto is the Roman god of the underworld. (Think "Hades")

3. Disney's Pluto was a cartoon dog who took (and often mistook) orders from Mickey Mouse.

4. The phrase "proving science wrong" is one of Bree's charming trademarks. She clearly has issues around her science teacher and her classmates' innuendo that he did something wrong, unproven we should hope.

5. Bree mentioned "Xena" (Pluto's new fellow trans-Neptunian friend), which also refers to the TV show made in New Zealand with Kiwi actress Lucy Lawless.

6. Rings? LOTR? NZ again.

[hyemew]

stan, there's a much easier way to explain it though...
Poor Pluto, saying poor thing because it was excluded. Pluto is the god of the underworld, but it wasn't Venus who was deplaneted. It was Pluto. So I see no need to bring in a Hades/devil connection (though there was no lucifer in Hades). Rings has to do with the planets having rings. Trying to divulge other meanings like (rings=lotr=nz, xena=lawless=nz) are really pretty pointless and will not get us anywhere.
There are usually two ways to deconstruct everything, the easy way and the hard way. In this case, I really think we should be looking at the easy way.