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Post by hyemew on Nov 23, 2006 14:04:28 GMT -5
It has become increasingly clear that LG is getting a new character. The Creators haven't said anything outright (though I've heard rumblings), but it's about as blatant as can be. His name is Jonas and I hate him with a passion.
If you guys thought Gemma was bad, just wait for Jonas. At least Gemma has some redeeming qualities (none that I know of, however I'm sure there are some). Jonas has NONE. He's a self-described "lonely" fan of Bree's who doesn't go to school, doesn't work (it's not his "style"), and literally just sits there doing absolutely nothing complaining about how bored he is. Watching it is like watching paint dry, just worse, and his writers are TERRIBLE. His first video starts like thus: "Hi, my name is Jonas. Like the Weezer song *does Bree excited nod*. *silence* In fact... *silence* the band named it after me. *long silence* OK well no they didn't." GOD- does it get any worse?! I am pissed beyond all fathomability about his impending inclusion into the LG15 universe- it's clear from the production value and style he is not just a regular fan making this and that these early videos are just a prelude to him getting involved. If you watch them, he's basically an exact male replica of Bree. Which would be fine... except he's a freaking 20-something rich boy. Seeing him behave exactly like Bree is... odd, to say the least, and blatantly forced and fake. To say things don't fit nor go together is an understatement.
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Post by tempest on Nov 23, 2006 14:19:57 GMT -5
Wow! You sound absolutely thrilled about this guy. I rmember seeing his vid somwhere (was it on the LG15 forum ) and wondering "WTF". I'm wiht you hyemew, unless somehing VERY cool happens his presence will be disturbing and annoying. When can we expect Ted McGinly to show up?
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Post by lesbrent on Nov 23, 2006 15:16:06 GMT -5
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Post by hookedonmonics on Nov 23, 2006 19:00:55 GMT -5
Aha, a plan to work Daniel/Yousef OUT of the breeniverse? Daniel and Bree hide out at Jonas', Bree and Jonas hook up. Daniel goes apocalyptic, yelling at bree and revealing key info to us, the viewer, and leaves. Order catches him and offers his release in exchange for bree's whereabouts. Daniel obliges, then posts one last remorseful video "Sorry Bree, I love you, run." and now bree and jonas are on the run. (shudders) I hope not. It would be fun to see Danielfreak out on Bree, but I wouldn't want him to go away. Although, I do hear that Jonas is quite the piece of eye candy......
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Post by Terryfic on Nov 23, 2006 19:24:09 GMT -5
Yes, it is clear that this is meant to be the cool Daniel and that he is/was the replacement plan for Daniel. I hope the writers paid attention to the audience’s reaction to the early leak that DB might not have a long future with the series and no longer go down this route. Did anyone else get a very Poochie like feel from this guy, he skateboards… to the Xtreme!! I will be really sad if they still want to dump Yousef. He is the only one that has been able to give a human performance in this series. He isn’t fun like Bree, but Bree is starting to get a little stale and the fact that she is pretty one dimensional (albeit that single dimension is a nice one) is becoming more and more apparent. Gemma and this new dude seem even shallower than Bree. Daniel on the other hand has continuously, and especially in his latest vid, been much more like a regular person. He isn’t just a caricature. He isn’t a shiny happy person. He is almost a real person with emotions and disappointment and depth. They have tried to inject more depth in Bree with some of her back story (like in Pluto), but they never really went anywhere with it. She doesn’t seem to have any inner conflict and ultimately I think the character would be better in a supporting role. Then again considering the story is one of an evil cult chasing two teenagers, for seemingly no other motive than because they are an evil cult, maybe they don’t want the characters to have depth and be like real people because that would make the ridiculousness of the story more apparent.
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Post by trash180 on Nov 23, 2006 20:37:38 GMT -5
ooh...a vlogger for every demographic?!? ha...This really is a pyramid scheme isn't it?
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Post by noasinger on Nov 23, 2006 21:17:05 GMT -5
Our beloved OpAphid put it best:
mimic unto nonchalance
I'm growing increasingly nonchalant myself.
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Post by hyemew on Nov 23, 2006 22:19:51 GMT -5
I do not know the facts, however I am really curious if Jonas was indeed going to be a complete replacement for Daniel. I believe there is more to Yousefgate than just the hiring of Jonas (however interesting how last week was Yousefgate with talk of firing, we know that the creators usually film a few days before they upload and so presumably write it a few days before that, and that now just a week later Jonas is here...) but I'm sure Jonas was a factor. It's just so painfully transparent that Jonas is the creation of one of these "tandem groups of writers" that we read about in the article. For example, there's a woman listed on Lgpedia as "writer", but it still seems like Mesh is Bree's writer. I get the feeling that Mesh writes for Gemma too because she manages to have intelligent things in there like mentioning Hume. Jonas however SCREAMS "I am a different writer trying my best to mimic LG15 and doing a poor job of it."
Have you SEEN his latest video? In it, he responds to griping on the message board (mainly led by me haha) about (amongst MANY MANY other things) why is he a kid alone in a house being bored all the time, when he's clearly old enough to be able to drive, do things, etc. His answer? The reason I live here alone in this mansion and do nothing all day is because... "well Bree I saw your Longitude video and... it reminds me how my parents were LOST AT SEA around the 140th longitude." W......T.......F......... ON TOP OF THAT, he says they were lost at sea 6 YEARS ago. What the hell?! Despite the fact the production value still screams 'The Creators', this story line for him is getting stupider by the second! So, despite the fact he says he doesn't go to school, doesn't have a job, and just does nothing all day, he still manages to support himself and continue to pay to live in a MANSION!? I mean maybe they were super-wealthy, after all they had a yacht, but STILL! And he had referred to where he films as "his dad's office" in the first one, and yet it hasn't been touched for six years, still exactly as it was? I mean six years ago, let's pretend he's supposed to be about Bree's age (even though he looks much older), six years ago he was 12! If he was 20, then it was 14. If he's 24 (that's pushing it) he was 18. REGARDLESS, none of those ages are sensible for him to continue living in that house alone. I have to stop ranting, but it's so hard I hate this character so much. I mean at least Gemma speaks, I think literally 1/3 of Jonas's videos are him just stuttering going "uh................. wow" and the like. I mean the stories making no sense, how could Mesh ever sign off on this crap?! Yet it is just totally setting up to be just that so everyone brace yourself when the completely unsurprising relevation comes that he is indeed a part of the Breeniverse (I already know this to be true so watch out). Sigh Ughh Ughh Ughh!
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Post by mku77 on Nov 23, 2006 22:28:21 GMT -5
Oh dear, Oh me, Oh my,! How tragically sad for the poor wee boy,... My Arse.... one.revver.com/find/video/Jonas#_show_video_105440And thats about as much as i can say,This is just so WRONG in every sense of the word, Dummed down to the point of infantile,it represents every kind of stereotype that non-Americans have about white middle class young wasters/trash who live on the west coast, What we have here Ladies and Gentlemen is a male Paris Hilton! There is No Way I am subjecting myself to this purile nonsense any longer And that will be my last words on it/this character ever, Mark.
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Post by wednesday on Nov 24, 2006 3:38:53 GMT -5
Two words: douche & bag.
edit: I've been trying to think of something more constructive to say, even as I sleep, but Hye has pretty much expressed everything I could have felt...only better and with more emotion. I hate to sound like a phorum-er, but the only way I would continue to watch Jonas in any capacity is if he turned out to be an Order plant, only in the world to lure Bree to their mansion. of course, that would break the 'adults don't play on youtube convention and the order seems to find D & B fairly easily anyway so never mind. Then again, Revver is full of revenue generating adults...hmmm...in any case that's the best I could do in lieu of douchebag.
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Post by hyemew on Nov 24, 2006 4:03:13 GMT -5
There are some phorum members who seem to ignore the fact that he's horrible and makes no sense just because he's "hot" (which is an opinion to begin with). I am mad at some people's willingness to accept him with open arms as canon merely because he's canon and they want some eyecandy, despite the fact that inflicting his narcissistic idiocy would be take a major toll on the show. It's pure childish drivel, his writer is horrible, I could go on... if THAT'S canon (which it is), we're all doomed.
Excuse me, I have to return to taking a nap in my mansion, where I've lived alone since age 13, and monitor the radio waves for any possible transmission from my parents. Oh, and play golf with an "imaginary" ball, that's always a real important part of my day. And punching myself in the face with boxing gloves, that too (what a great metaphor that is Jonas, both for how I feel and for what LG15 is doing to itself by adding on his storyline.)
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 24, 2006 6:26:28 GMT -5
This whole thing reeks of (bad) Hollywood professionals coming behind the scenes with the creators. No doubt accompanied by seed money. If you look at the worst dramatic show on TV, the budget is at least hundreds of times what the c's is.
If what Miles says is true about the original team not having any cash, then I bet they would let any third-rate HWood hack with ANY kind of capital start suggesting this kind of crap.
Ladies and Gents: Brian's original hypothesis is moot. It's not about the Girl, it's about the Benjamins.
Ramp up your Yousef avatars, an ill wind is blowing.
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Post by hyemew on Nov 24, 2006 10:59:43 GMT -5
milo, can you please create an anti-Jonas avatar so we can pre-empt the video when Bree says "hi Jonas, I liked your video so I decided to respond..."
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Post by trash180 on Nov 24, 2006 12:03:56 GMT -5
I'll have to go watch these Jonas videos, but if he lives in a mansion by himself, and he's in the breeniverse, then it sounds like a place that Bree could crash, eh? Is this the plan? Then sparks fly and Daniel get jealous and....sheesh...
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Post by hyemew on Nov 24, 2006 12:28:44 GMT -5
I'll have to go watch these Jonas videos, but if he lives in a mansion by himself, and he's in the breeniverse, then it sounds like a place that Bree could crash, eh? Is this the plan? Then sparks fly and Daniel get jealous and....sheesh... It's lookin' that way. If this comes to pass I will have officially lost faith in the world.
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