It's Not Your Decision [10.26.06]

[milowent]

www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=89&play=1

www.revver.com/view.php?id=86772

Uploaded to Revver: 6-Oct-2006 01:59am (PT)

EDIT 1:04pm ET: Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lKUZ78SC1M

YT Tags gemma london LG15 lonelygirl15 daniel danielbeast serious order decision sam petrol (more)

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This new video is listed as episode "59" - that's means it is canon, an official LG15 video. Color me impressed at not expecting this.

[curiousgeorge]

milowent said:

www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=89&play=1

Color me impressed at not expecting this.

OK, for surprising me the creators get a Mulligan, but they are on notice.

And I am still Breally Cranky about the plot holes.

[hyemew]

Ughh this is a REAL shark jumping moment for me. I am so upset over Gemma and her terribly fake accent (and yes Bree has confirmed that Gemma is from England, not the NZ commune and moved to London, so no "give her a break it's supposed to be Kiwi" allowed, and that still doesn't explain why she sounds American half the time.) It's also reckless of them to give Gemma episode 3 a number but no Gemmas one and two. I understand the reasoning, they wanted to surprise us, but this makes the story totally confusing. I mean I GUESS if you watch episodes straight through people would understand based on episode Hi Gemma they could assume this is said Gemma, but it's still basically dropping her out of nowhere.

My biggest pet peeve though, well those are string, Pinocchio. I hate being able to see them. We can basically figure out everything the creators were thinking- they were like oh hmm let's introduce a new character who can talk to Bree about this, so they're like hmm which one of Jess's actress friends needs the biggest career boost... and then Miles is like how about the one with the overly long neck, oversized lips, and barndoor sized teeth? GOOD IDEA says Mesh, and they all happily absorb her into the story line. Turns out, she can't do a British accent. Oh well says Miles, it's not like we need this to be BELIEVABLE or anything, we'll just take what we can get, Gemma away!!!!!!

Sorry if this came off a little harsh, there's just something about Gemma in general which rubs me the wrong way, and I am NONE TOO PLEASED she was incorporated.

(And milo, is the fact Gemma seems so fake that we didn't expect the Creators to actually incorporate her into the story line really a good and impressive thing? Sorry if that's not what you meant by that but it sure seems that way haha. Gemma is awful, she's the frikkin Dick Sargent of Lonelygirl.)

[curiousgeorge]

hyemew said:

Gemma is awful, she's the frikkin Dick Sargent of Lonelygirl.)

That line was better than the sum total of the creator's writing of the last 10 vids or so.

My nominee for snark of the week.

[drquest]

they finaly figured out after all this time that hey maybe we need more people making video than just Bree and Daniel.
I have been saying that from the start the who ping pong you get with the 2 was to limited you needed more, now near the end they add her. Or is this a way to transition into a new sieries. One last thing her accent sounds forced as if she has to think about evey word she says before she speaks them.

[Smashing]

I'm not sure that a) That's not how Jackie speaks in real life. b) That's not a real English accent. (there are a variety of English accents). Is there confirmed info I'm missing?
Just to make it clear, these videos were never "fan-involvement." The creators made the Gemmers videos and they were always canon, it just wasn't confirmed at first to get people talking. It was a desperate attempt to inject some of the original behind-the-scenes mystery that originally fueled interest in the series. You can argue that wasn't the right way to do it, but it doesn't really matter to me. The video numbering is off, but I don't see how anyone who was interested in the series could miss Gemmer's first two videos. If you watch it through YouTube, they're on her channel, and clearly the people who watch it through LG15.com saw them. If you have to go back and watch them, it's not a big deal.
Oh, and the Dick Sargent metaphor only works if Jackie was replacing Jess.

[hyemew]

Her accent slips into American-sounding every few words. As someone who was the roommate of a Brit for a summer I definitely started to pick some of it up (partly because I wanted to haha) however since I was certainly not immersed in it or whatever I'd revert back and forth. This is exactly what I feel Gemma is doing because she is trying to hard to sound British, but without proper immersion you don't know how to say it all thusly and therefore ping pong back and forth between the two. This is especially noticeable with the fact she doesn't know how to say anything ending in "ly" without sounding American.

[hyemew]

I know it's not a perfect metaphor smashing, but in a way she's basically replaced Daniel. He's seemed to have gone into hiding, was doing nothing but packing bags in that one Bree did from the hide-out, and based on what Yousef's been saying it sounds like he wants out. Whatever the case, we do have the introduction of a new actor to the series who no one likes and feels is ruining the show. In that way they are the same.

Gemma might even be a necessary addition if Daniel decides to "permanently disappear" thanks to the cult or something on November 30. Kind of like the middle sister on Family Matters going upstairs into her closet at the end of season 1 and never re-emerging. Of course if LG somehow become just her and Gemma talking back and forth via webcam forever that'd be boring as hell. Technically Gemma should never show up in the Bree world being in London, but since we all know Jackie is right there with them they could have her catch the next flight to wherever-Bree-lives and save her in some way.

Also, regarding a. I have no doubt Jackie does NOT speak like that. Besides her constant slipping back into American-sounding every few words, what are the odds Jess's friend just HAPPENS to be from England and therefore can play an English girl they already created a long time back. It seems pretty apparent to me they created the dog in England long ago, wanted to incorporate a friend, so they thought back to the dog and was like let's make the dog's owner show up. I bet Jackie was the only of Jess's actress friends who could do a passable British accent so she got the part.
If that's the real way she talks, then why does it sound so forced? Can you imagine someone walking around sounding like they're forcing their accent at all times?!

[Smashing]

Jackie's myspace says United Kingdom.

[milowent]

hyemew said:

(And milo, is the fact Gemma seems so fake that we didn't expect the Creators to actually incorporate her into the story line really a good and impressive thing? Sorry if that's not what you meant by that but it sure seems that way haha. Gemma is awful, she's the frikkin Dick Sargent of Lonelygirl.)

good point. i just thought the phrase "color me impressed" sounded cool. its similar to Survivor when a castaway is "impressed" that they got blindsided and voted off with no advance notice, you didn't see it coming.

it will be interesting to see how much gemmas19 is incorporated into the story line. the background used for her videos is lame, though, its looks like a dentist office waiting room to me.

and, um, you haterz, she is definitely hawtt. if you don't think so, go over to "hotornot.com" for a few minutes and sample the offerings.

[drquest]

I don't see Yousef leaving as in will not be seen again. my guess is
a. Nov 30th could be something in his real life, he does have one. He said in his blog he worries a lot that date could be about a family or friend.
b. if they are under a contract I have a feeling they are very locked in and just can't up and leave before it's over.
c. you can't replace daniel he is to involved in the whole LG world and the only guy on the show you would lose quite a few fans droping the only male on the show.

*EDIT * another though on Nov 30th Jess has said on her and Yousef's myspace that Yousef is getting a new home this could just be moving day or the closing date

[hyemew]

smashing said:

Jackie's myspace says United Kingdom.

and it says Bree is like 103! Jackie = Tom Green picture = LA
For all we know she added that there in honor of Gemma. We really don't know her story, she could be a girl from London who ended up moving to LA like Bree, befriended her, and then she got written in. It's all rather convenient that Bree would just so happen have a friend whose British as to fit with the storyline of the already-written Nottingham doggirl. Also there's no doubt Jackie is now from LA and has been for the past few months, so why does she even list UK as her location? I don't know what to think but we can't use myspace to validate everything as complete truth, everyone lies.

Also if that really is her accent she's failed as a British person. They're supposed to have cool accents not horrendously fake sounding ones.

[hyemew]

milowent said:

it will be interesting to see how much gemmas19 is incorporated into the story line. the background used for her videos is lame, though, its looks like a dentist office waiting room to me.

Exactly! From the very first second I was like umm what's with the background? There's no "room" to speak of, it looks like some design on the side of a wall of a studio apartment, that's exactly what it looks like. Come on, they have rooms and stuff they can use to film, at least having things in the background makes things interesting to hunt for. Gemma's "room" though is bare as a a bone, there's no place to incorporate anything back there even if they wanted to.

[squeakyg]

I'm English, so maybe my opinion counts.

Her accent doesn't sond quite right, but neither does it fall into the usual traps when Americans do an English accent badly. Americans usually either try to sound too "posh" or too "cockney" when they try. Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins is the most hilarious example, we laugh at that all the time.

Gemmers has enough true inflections in her accent to suggest some real time in the UK - inflections that American fakers wouldn't think of. Yet it's also a very well-travelled accent. It's clearly affected by some time in the US or New Zealand.

Since it's not very clear where the character has lived throughout her life (I'm personally confused, was she with Bree in NZ?), I don't know how much is intentional.

I'm more disturbed that she pronounces some words plain wrong. In this video she pronounces "commune" like she's reading it from a script and doesn't know how it's pronounced. Plus she's just a plain bad actress.

[hyemew]

Haha yeah, cu-mmoon or something like that. That word stuck out like a sore thumb. As did ALOOMNIS. I think instead of finding a weird tag like in every Bree video, we can laugh at the word Jackie horribly mispronounces each episode. It's more entertaining than "find the tag" too since we get to laugh! Nothing about the fake tags were all that funny, oh except for genghiskhan.