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Post by Terryfic on Oct 21, 2006 0:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by noasinger on Oct 21, 2006 0:12:34 GMT -5
Hey, Yousef, you're awfully adorable with your bangs hanging in your eyes, nearly in tears.
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Post by drquest on Oct 21, 2006 0:18:12 GMT -5
another good Daniel video
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Post by newone on Oct 21, 2006 0:32:17 GMT -5
again....daniel can come stay with me! poor guy. so, i wonder if he is dropping out of college to go hide, or if he is just staying with a friend in the area....not that we ever knew he actually went to college.
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Post by dannie717 on Oct 21, 2006 1:01:31 GMT -5
in the beginning, who did he say has been following him? the cult?
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Post by trash180 on Oct 21, 2006 1:11:14 GMT -5
Nice one Daniel! Man, I'd be hiding too. Doesn't sound like he's going to be going out of his way to contact Bree very soon either. Generous words about the parents. Will they actually team up with Daniel? That could backfire. However, they're smart people, and very protective of Bree. They might not want to believe right away, but they may come around. Perhaps Bree will have to go against Daniel and her parents to continue on with "the cult"? How is it that this religion doesn't have anything going on for Halloween? We better get some good Halloween videos...or Day of the dead or something. oooh...they could meet, but in costumes. So as to be discreet, and not arouse suspicion with the order. 10 more days til halloween... silver shamrock... |
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Post by Joss on Oct 21, 2006 1:24:01 GMT -5
Well.. If anybody read my last post about Bree's video knows for sure this is exactly what I was thinking Daniel would have to say. It the cult or anybody else wanted to take care of any pending business with Daniel sure they know how to find him.. And that would not be taped on video for sure.  So obviously Daniel is not in danger, not even followed. He is being a little bit paranoid and loves playing poor Daniel who gets picked just because he's trying to do the right thing.  Now, he knows way too good that Bree's parents have been informed and that they will not be very friendly to him anymore. And his way of dealing with this is denial: He won't accept he is wrong, he'd rather pretend Bree's parents are stupid and they just don't know enough about this to worry, so he is the holder of the truth and he is trying to enlighten everyone else, even Bree, about what is better for them. Now.. This is a very important point in the story for depending how Bree answers to this video so will know Daniel what to expect. Will Bree break in tears and plea Daniel to come back and hold her? I don't think so.. Is this what Daniel hopes for? In his dreams.. However he is smart enough to know that in the present situation chances are he is not going to be that lucky. My guess? Bree in a cold and unambiguous tone will suggest him to get back to the real world and arrange a meeting with her so she can look at him in the eyes and see if he dares to play being her Saviour in her face.. Then she will know whether to hit him with all she has or if Daniel deserves a chance to come out clean, sincere and honest. I think Daniel is too proud for that.. Maybe I'm wrong. If I were Daniel and I had messed up that bad there would be something that would had shred my heart in pieces: Bree with a sad face throwing PM on her bed and saying in that frustrated tone "This is just not the same anymore..." Now this is an interesting challenge.. What are you going to do now to fix what you have broken oh poor little boy? You ever tried lying at someone who is staring at you? You can't even look right into the camera.. |
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Post by curiousgeorge on Oct 21, 2006 5:48:16 GMT -5
He says that Lucy and Bree are still meeting?  Does BreeTellLies or is this just a continuity error? I thought Lucy was off somewhere, herding misc. cult members... Confused. |
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Post by milowent on Oct 21, 2006 7:29:55 GMT -5
the biggest mystery of LG15 for many of us used to be whether it was real or fake -- no matter how many klews we dug up, for a long time i thought it COULD still be real. (e.g., what parent would let a boy in their daughter's room with the door closed? but, some parents are weird like that, they trust Bree, and so on . . . )
NOW i feel the same way about whether the cult is benign or evil. is bree brainwashed, or really happy about the ceremony? is daniel paranoid or not? i'm intrigued.
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Post by noasinger on Oct 21, 2006 7:49:55 GMT -5
Mesh seems to be getting a little more savvy about reining in the audience's interpretation of the material. They really can't afford to offend the liberal wing of the audience badly enough to lose viewers.
It interests me that they're now drawing even more of a meta-distinction between Bree's parents' religion and the offshoot practiced by the Order. Daniel seems to be understanding now that there are varieties of approach in Bree's religion the same as with anyone else's. So *now* we're being reassured through Daniel that the Thelemic religion Bree was practicing before the ceremony may be "weird," but is probably benign, and Bree's parents may be strict, but are good people. Aleister Crowley is off the hook; any danger comes from extremists, not from the source religion. Daniel still can't let go of his "secretive cult" mantra, but he's applying the term more selectively.
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Post by BaileysMom on Oct 21, 2006 10:58:27 GMT -5
I find that I am now a passive participant, watching the story to see what happens versus trying to anticipate or analyze the meaning.
More than anything, I am simply amazed that this IMS has had 54 webisodes and we aren't further along in the story. I think they almost need to have a "recap" show like Lost does at the beginning of the season - the show that catches you up and allows the directors to remind you, ever so gently, of the important little nuggets along the way that might otherwise go unnoticed or unremembered. This recap show would allow the directors to re-create/regenerate excitement but also give newbies to the IMS a chance to catch up.
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Post by jayhenry on Oct 21, 2006 12:56:42 GMT -5
It's not the cultists that are bad people -- it's the cult leaders!!
Well, um... yeah.
The Order is the leader of Bree's cult. Saying the Creators are drawing a meta-distinction between the (fake) religious tradition that (actually an actress) Bree's parents practice and the (fake) leadership within that (fake) religious tradition isn't really saying much.
It's like saying "the pope is evil, but we're not criticizing Catholicism." And of course, it's doubly ridiculous with something that's a fictional extremist cult, where there's really no distinction between the leadership and the religion.
There's a difference between small religions and fictional cults that you see on TV or your computer, people. And for the love of Hymaneaus Beta don't go breaking into the apartment of your neighborhood Thelemites. Okay, after-school special over. Now can we quit getting offended on other people's behalf and go back to enjoying this (fictional) story about these two young (actually an actor and an actress) characters that are sorta in love (fake love, they're just acting) but struggling with this (fake) Order of the girl's (fictionalized) religion.
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Post by drquest on Oct 21, 2006 14:50:00 GMT -5
The only thing about the turn of evens is how will the next few videos look like I mean will bree now do the stalker thing and video Lucy or some unknown cult person.
In a typical drama Bree and Daniel would agree to meet to talk things out the meeting goes bad Daniel is kidnapped being dragged into a van shouting you set me up, I trusted you, how could you do this to me. Setting up the turning point for Bree to betray her cult and everything she believed in for her love of Daniel. but how would this get filmed who would film it how would it get to you tube. Daniel's friend ? they have painted them self into a corner
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Post by noasinger on Oct 21, 2006 16:09:47 GMT -5
It's not the cultists that are bad people -- it's the cult leaders!! Well, um... yeah. The Order is the leader of Bree's cult. Saying the Creators are drawing a meta-distinction between the (fake) religious tradition that (actually an actress) Bree's parents practice and the (fake) leadership within that (fake) religious tradition isn't really saying much. It's like saying "the pope is evil, but we're not criticizing Catholicism." And of course, it's doubly ridiculous with something that's a fictional extremist cult, where there's really no distinction between the leadership and the religion. There's a difference between small religions and fictional cults that you see on TV or your computer, people. And for the love of Hymaneaus Beta don't go breaking into the apartment of your neighborhood Thelemites. Okay, after-school special over. Now can we quit getting offended on other people's behalf and go back to enjoying this (fictional) story about these two young (actually an actor and an actress) characters that are sorta in love (fake love, they're just acting) but struggling with this (fake) Order of the girl's (fictionalized) religion. Uhm, no, it's more like saying, "the Branch Davidians/Peoples Temple are extremists, but we aren't criticizing Christianity." Or "Aum Shinrinkyo are extremists, but we aren't criticizing Buddhism." Or "shi'ite terrorists are extremist, but we aren't slamming majority Islam because of them." Or "the Minutemen are extremists, but all Republicans aren't like that." |
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Post by Joss on Oct 21, 2006 17:11:56 GMT -5
Why is it that we assume anything we do not know or understand is bad and has to be destroyed?
I don't see why Bree should be rescued of anything, to me she a perfectly healthy girl with caring parents and strong believings that they conveyed to their daughter.
Can please anybody point out any evidence that suggests that is in danger or that she would do better being a follower of any other set of ideas?
I just can't see how being different could be a symptom of anything needing treatment.
Is really that hard to conceive the idea of Bree happy the way she is now?
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