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Post by hyemew on Nov 30, 2006 12:47:04 GMT -5
jdsmith had said that whatever it was arrived in the mail around sometime in the fairly early morning of the chat disaster. He was trying and troubleshooting away all day, but something about it just wasn't working. 15 minutes before the chat time he said it was apparent they weren't going to be able to use it, so they moved it over to the regular chat room and that's when the disaster began...
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Post by lesbrent on Nov 30, 2006 13:53:35 GMT -5
I just went into the new and improved Bree chat. It's nice looking, I can't really tell what functionality it has that they didn't have before. Maybe it's easier to block people or something. I said a bunch of stupid stuff to see if I'd get blocked, but I didn't. I don't think anyone in the chat at the time had any admin privileges. I told the chat people the story about the time I met Jessica Rose at a Baja Fresh in Los Angeles. I accidentally gave her an uppercut into the salsa table. Needless to say, the phorons didn't appreciate how great of a story it was. Some MAJOR potential downfalls of that new chat. You can select someone from the list and click the "private" button and then only they can see your message. I forsee a lot of ganging up on people, backstabbing, and elitism with that function. And people will be making mistakes and something private will get displayed to all. The admins are the same as from the other night, and they are still rude for the most part. Other than that, kinda neat how you can create your own room - but other functions seems pretty much the same as the userplane one. Wonder if there is a limit to chat size (100 people) in this interface?
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Post by milowent on Nov 30, 2006 14:03:54 GMT -5
Some MAJOR potential downfalls of that new chat. You can select someone from the list and click the "private" button and then only they can see your message. I forsee a lot of ganging up on people, backstabbing, and elitism with that function. And people will be making mistakes and something private will get displayed to all. that sounds just like pms on irc, though.
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Post by lesbrent on Nov 30, 2006 14:13:59 GMT -5
It's done right on the same screen Milo. Can you do that in IRC?
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 30, 2006 14:15:59 GMT -5
I j I told the chat people the story about the time I met Jessica Rose at a Baja Fresh in Los Angeles. I accidentally gave her an uppercut into the salsa table. Needless to say, the phorons didn't appreciate how great of a story it was. You left out the part about you and Jess Eskimo Kissing over a drink. More Jay Hank hilarity. It is like shooting fish in a barrel there, too easy. I suggest we let them be and only go over for major "fan interaction" events. They seem to be mostly teens in there having harmless fun.
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Post by lesbrent on Nov 30, 2006 14:33:00 GMT -5
I j I told the chat people the story about the time I met Jessica Rose at a Baja Fresh in Los Angeles. I accidentally gave her an uppercut into the salsa table. Needless to say, the phorons didn't appreciate how great of a story it was. You left out the part about you and Jess Eskimo Kissing over a drink. More Jay Hank hilarity. It is like shooting fish in a barrel there, too easy. I suggest we let them be and only go over for major "fan interaction" events. They seem to be mostly teens in there having harmless fun. Cheeky, check out the ones who have allowed vidcams.... it's interesting!
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Post by VanillaFlava on Nov 30, 2006 16:44:46 GMT -5
Just checked out their chat. Nothing special. Just a regular flash chat that also allows webcam. Most likely problem with this will be scalability. If this is running over a Flash Media Server, than it will be pretty expensive and likely not scale to a lot of concurrent users. Alternatively, it could use the open source Red 5 server, which is still prone to instability at this point.
There's a couple of open source solutions similar to this, but to my knowledge you cannot get around the cost of the Media server (unless you use Red 5, which is not quite ready for prime time).
Will be interesting to see how it holds up to peak time concurrency.
I have run a couple of celebrity chats in the past, and we would never choose a solution like this because if I want to make sure my show runs smoothly I need a solution with excellent scalabilty and at least a hot-standby fallback, should things turn sour on the primary stage.
How did their previous chat hold up, btw? Login/slow-down issues while the peak was on, or did it run smoothly? Were there room maximums?
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Post by hyemew on Dec 2, 2006 1:29:45 GMT -5
ANCHOR COVE WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!
New message in regards to the 350,000 number over at the phorum- Posted by: The Creators Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We apologize for that. The statment was innacurate, but not intentional on our part. We were under the impression that those numbers were correct based on processor load, but we later learned that the unique visitor counts were lower. Nonetheless, if you include YouTube, those numbers are accurate.
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Post by milowent on Dec 2, 2006 9:35:55 GMT -5
we later learned that the unique visitor counts were lower. haha. yeah, much much lower, i'm sure.
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Post by hyemew on Dec 2, 2006 12:22:30 GMT -5
In another post later last night they claimed it was "closer to 30,000". In my mind I sense that "closer" still probably means at least 10,000 below that number... they just rounded it up to 30,000 to make the mistake look more concievable.
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Post by jayhenry on Dec 2, 2006 12:27:50 GMT -5
I think 30,000 is probably pretty close to accurate. They appear to have about 15,000 regulars -- based off Revver views -- and Alexa showed their traffic was roughly around twice as high.
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Post by jsmith on Dec 13, 2006 2:19:44 GMT -5
Several hundred people were on it. It was mind-bogglingly unprofessional. JSmith should be fired for this disaster. i know this is quite late for this reply, but i figured i'd say it anyways. The Creators notified me that there would be an in-character chat literally 2 days before the chat. 1 day before the chat they notified me they wanted to get a new chat system up. I had less than 1 day to prepare for this - this was their fault for not giving me the proper warning. Throughout my time they gave me very unrealistic deadlines. Just thought i'd put in my two cents.
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Post by hyemew on Dec 13, 2006 2:26:19 GMT -5
I will agree there, that was an unrealistic deadline. There is no way they should have gone ahead with announcing a chat without making sure everything worked and was ready. That wasn't fair to you.
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Post by milowent on Dec 13, 2006 9:41:21 GMT -5
The Creators notified me that there would be an in-character chat literally 2 days before the chat. 1 day before the chat they notified me they wanted to get a new chat system up. .... Throughout my time they gave me very unrealistic deadlines. JD, i suspected as much. The problem here is that at the creator-level, there is no computer whiz. So they may make decisions without realization it will cause huge technical problems. Not such a big deal on traditional TV, but ironic for the first modern series to really capitalize on internet video.
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Post by Jennifer on Dec 13, 2006 11:20:33 GMT -5
The chat was a bum idea anyway. There's no way you can get 50+ users in a room without it being chaos. The best idea would be to have a chat with perhaps 30 randomly selected fans, and the main characters. That could be conducted on an existing network like SPINchat or IRC in apssword protected/hidden room and the transcript posted for the other fans. Or, the "chat" could be conducted in threads on a message board like this one, but the forum protected so only the characters (mod status) and users with over a certain number of posts can reply to limit the chaos. That way everyone could watch by refreshing the threads and existing technology used.
To ask somebody to set up a chat system in that time for those numbers was lunacy and shows a total internet/computer naivety on the part of the creators.
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