newone
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Post by newone on Oct 17, 2006 9:53:12 GMT -5
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Post by Terryfic on Oct 17, 2006 20:10:48 GMT -5
Our good friend Virginia wrote an interesting piece about what makes a vid on YouTube become the most viewed of all time. It seems the mistake we have all been making it is trying to say something |
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Post by milowent on Oct 17, 2006 22:18:46 GMT -5
Our good friend Virginia wrote an interesting piece about what makes a vid on YouTube become the most viewed of all time. It seems the mistake we have all been making it is trying to say something Interesting. That evolution of dance video is just stupid. But since its on top, it will keep getting more views. I would also note that the success of the nohogirls, albeit in english between the ums and likes, may be helped in part by the fact that Blue is a good looking asian chick. |
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Post by hyemew on Oct 20, 2006 20:24:12 GMT -5
That's always, I was always afraid that youtube counted per reload. I had become pretty convinced of it, but had always hoped it wasn't true.
Wow, make billions of dollars making people think you have more unique hits than you actually do... kinda creepy...
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Post by VanillaFlava on Oct 20, 2006 23:22:17 GMT -5
Good find, newone. It's baffling to me that YouTube doesn't fix these holes. Seems like all that would be required is not counting repeat viewings from a single IP address. Maybe they have enough traffic that logging that sort of information would be impossible? Nah. It's more like they don't care. In the beginning that was also probably a nice device to inflate your own number. Ah, the sadness. Making a truly unique video counter is a bit tricky, but you don't need such exacting numbers for this purpose. So you'd probably resort to something simple like writing the information in a cookie, which expires after a month, meaning each machine is counted once per vid per month barring cookie deletion. That's how a lot of net reporting is done. Still open to manipulation, but a little more annoying to spoof. It's kinda sad that they simply count every view. They really make themselves look bigger and more popular than they are. They won't get away with something like this on the Nielsen reporting, which calls a remote URL and ensures browswer uniqueness, hence their pageviews can't be spoofed. |
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shont2006
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Post by shont2006 on Nov 1, 2006 18:50:03 GMT -5
I always suspected that such a thing was being done, and it is pretty easy to do too. It's obvious Youtube isn't even trying to stop this practice, and perhaps is even promoting it.
So here is the question: Is Self Promotion, in such a way, a bad thing?
I mean...I would rather someone scam their way to the top of the "most viewed list" than get spam in my youtube mailbox.
The other question I have, is that if nobody took part in such a scam...would we just be left with a bunch of porn and Anime movies on the front pages?
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Post by jayhenry on Nov 12, 2006 2:39:15 GMT -5
Our old friend Richard Rushfield weighs in with an article on gaming views on YouTube. Got hits? Or maybe they've just got game
As the stakes get higher, so does the temptation to pump the numbers. The allegations on YouTube are flying thick and fast.By Richard Rushfield, Times Staff Writer November 12, 2006 NOT long ago, the Web seemed on the brink of bringing true democracy to entertainment. Through the most-viewed, most-discussed and highest-rated lists of sites like YouTube and Technorati, every Web user was a mini-studio boss, casting his vote for what deserved to be seen and heard. Soon, the Web promised, showbiz bigwigs would no longer shove their wares down the throat of the entertainment consumer! With the click of a mouse, every man was a king, able to vote with his eyeballs and watch his favorites rise to the top. It became an article of cultural faith that the most-viewed list and its ilk told you what your fellow citizens really wanted to see and hear. So great has this belief been that the power of user voting has become the central organizing principle of an entire genre of websites such as YouTube and Digg. ...the full story |
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Jennifer
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Post by Jennifer on Nov 13, 2006 21:44:08 GMT -5
Have you contacted You Tube about it, because they are not going to look here  I suppose enough of us contact them direct they might look at tightening up the system. It doesn't really worry me at the moment, but if you contact them Jay, I'll back you up for sure. There's a lot on You Tube, and I usually search for what I want. I don't use the main page much for what other people like seeing cos that is just following the crowd. |
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I suppose enough of us contact them direct they might look at tightening up the system. It doesn't really worry me at the moment, but if you contact them Jay, I'll back you up for sure.