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Post by wixy15 on Nov 18, 2006 16:54:28 GMT -5
Can anyone clever give me some stats on the number of members posting. Say in the last week. It seems fairly low to me.
How does this compare to the offical messageboard?
I'm guessing most new members use the OS, most of the members here are of the older generation.
Cheers for any response.
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Jennifer
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I'm moviegirl1976 on YT ;-)
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Post by Jennifer on Nov 18, 2006 17:31:22 GMT -5
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Post by wixy15 on Nov 18, 2006 18:21:01 GMT -5
I'm sure there used to be close to 1500 members. This place has died as the original fans lost interest. The new fans are just using the offical forum where they can have their 'all important' interaction.
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Jennifer
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I'm moviegirl1976 on YT ;-)
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Post by Jennifer on Nov 18, 2006 18:42:10 GMT -5
There are some knowlegable people here, however.
I'm not really a LG15 fan , though I do admire Jess Rose and have seen most of her work on the LG project.
It does seem to me that the posters here are among the more informed guys. I mean they are not simply blind fans, but are examining the whole genre from a critical as well as an enthusiastic point of view, although as you point out, the creator interaction is missing.
Also, on the Noho angle there are Scott and Paul from the production team here. I find the discussion on You Tube about the Nohos pretty banal. It is much more sensible on this board.
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Post by wixy15 on Nov 19, 2006 7:13:43 GMT -5
I am one of the 'knowledgeable' ones. It seems to me that this place had just died. There was talking of it becoming a community not neccessarily associatd with LG, but that dosen't seem to have happened.
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buckwheat
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Post by buckwheat on Nov 19, 2006 12:20:13 GMT -5
Jay: I share your grief at the decline ofthe Cove .....(where has Vanillaflava gone??) Being close to the LG project but lacking much understanding of what it was (I don't have a TV, didn't know YouTube from toothpaste a few months ago) , I've found this forum to be informative and instructive in trying to understand all the many dimensions of the LG/YT/viral/ phenomenon as it spun wildly into being before our eyes. . I was hoping the "community" would center around following, dissecting, and maybe even shaping a bit, the evolution of this new way of creating, presenting, and viewing content as it moved beyond the LG context. I couldn't help but notice the flat response here (10 comments!) to the Wired article which, with all of its insider details, would have set off a hailstorm of comments a couple of months ago. Well . . . . . things change (great underated Joe Montegna film by that name, BTW --I do watch films) and everything has its season blahdey blah.....but I do think you folks were onto something here and , maybe this is just a lull.....and you'll get it going again.....or maybe Noa or Alissa (where has she been?) or Jay will archive everything from the beginning and turn it into a book (Present at the Creation! or something like that...) Just a thot....
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 19, 2006 13:18:50 GMT -5
I just could not let this pass: Jay: I share your grief at the decline ofthe Cove. <snip> I am going to jump in (because that's what monkeys do) and answer for J and others: I don't read anything in his statement as grief.It was always about quality, not quantity over here... <snip>Being close to the LG project... Well since you have brought this up. Perhaps your progeny will post here also, he is the one we Breally want to hear from... If you really were concerned about the activity here, that would give it a little boost! Is there any chance that there are some folks who might stand to benefit (let's say financially) if an outlet for criticism of the creators is on the wane? There is plenty of valid criticism at the phorum, although you have to wade through a lot of nonsense to find it. ETA Tell them: "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated!"
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Joss
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I'm bad.. And I like it! It's so fun!
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Post by Joss on Nov 19, 2006 15:25:14 GMT -5
Well.. Somebody please explain to me what do those statistics prove, disprove or try to explain.. Because I see no relation at all between the number of posts and what the cove actually is.
So.. There are peaks of posts.. Right.. And that means what? That there are situations which gather more attention and cause a higher number of reactions?.. That the people is there watching the cove even if they are not posting but they will post whenever they feel they have something to say?
So there used to be more subscribers.. Nice.. I have subscribed to a number of boards that I thought would be interesting but after a few days got bored and actually never ever got back to them.. This is my case and the case of everyone else.. People subscribed and either got bored and unsubscribed or got deleted due to inactivity.. Right.. So it means what?
Some good posters appreciated by the covites are no longer active or they don't post as much as they used to.. Right.. It means what? That we live in a world where the cove is not the center of the universe? People have children, get married, die, switch jobs, fall in love, start new business, etc.. Posting in the cove is not the only thing we all do and sometimes, just sometimes, may not be among the top of our priorities.. So what?
Let me tell you what I think is really important and what I think the statistics prove beyond any reasonable doubt: The Cove has linked a number of extraordinary persons with privileged insight that like to share, that is to tell what they have to tell but also listen what others have to say, and they rather get fewer but richer feedback than huge amounts of gibberish that would need lots of work to filter in order to get what they really want.
The statistics prove that The Cove has assets enough in the form of human capital to not depend from any external source to keep its fire burning.. Whether the talk is about LG15, Nohos, planetary exploration or the weather in London does not really matters because there is a consensus average level in posts high enough to make it interesting.. Plus there is a benefit that goes beyond the words and is the personal relations between posters that just can't be valued by any statistics.
Let me tell you who are statistics for: Those who do not give but only take from the cove, those who would like to be indispensable but are actually annoying, those who are confused by the false sensation of self-importance that gives the attention gathered through provocation, and specially those who would love to see The Cove vanish and disappear.
For those of us who know that The Cove is the people and not the IMS's or the statistics there is no such a thing as lack of posting but quality silence instead of raw senseless noise.
Don't you think?
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Post by hyemew on Nov 19, 2006 15:26:20 GMT -5
Bring on the progeny! Seeing him in the recent interview, I became much more interested in him and like him by far the most now. I'd love to hear from him.
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Post by lesbrent on Nov 19, 2006 21:28:08 GMT -5
Buckwheat, we aren't giving up on the Cove. We're collectively frustrated with the story that we love to hate. And we hate to love. The Wired Interview didn't really tell us a whole lot that we didn't already know, hence the low response. That Nightline article though ....why is Yousef never interviewed?
As far as the future of the Cove, I and a close group of others are working on it. You could help us Buckwheat by helping us get an interview. And helping us talk to one that we admire and thank for creating lonelygirl15 for us.
Wixy, what's your point?
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 20, 2006 6:28:39 GMT -5
Ignore Wixy's ranting, he is just being the Troll that he has ascribed himself to be. I know his real concern is the decline in the quality of the production... I think the biggest reason why we see missing faces here is for this reason. Do you really think that all the luminaries who are missing are now posting at the phorum instead? I think not... If I were the creators, I would be more concerned about why they are losing intelligent fans. We're not losing them, they are.
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Post by wixy15 on Nov 20, 2006 8:39:34 GMT -5
You are right CG. That is what has pissed me off, the fact that it went 'mainstream' and forgot about the fans that originally made it brilliant. They tried to please evryone at once and it didn't work. The story and videos became less and less interesting and IMO Bree and Daniel will never be the same.
Les I wasn't orginally saying this was a failed forum. I was asking about the posting habits of those here. I was wondered if there was much discussion. It seems like most of the original fans don't watch any more, like me. I was wondering whether the offical phorum is a lot more busy than this. I wasn't really trying to make any point, just asking.
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Post by milowent on Nov 20, 2006 8:46:02 GMT -5
I was wondering whether the offical phorum is a lot more busy than this. I wasn't really trying to make any point, just asking. the number of posts and posters at the phorum is substantially higher, but there is lot of clutter and off topic stuff there. (e.g., not as a slam, but there is one guy there who tries to tie everything to the illuminati.) during the height of the Cassie Is Watching drama, 66% of all posts at the phorum were about CIW. now it is calmer. i have long analogized the phorum to a barrier island -- it takes the brunt of wacked-out posters, fanboys, media storms, etc. meanwhile, the cove in on the mainland, sheltered from the ocean. I'm sure there used to be close to 1500 members. This place has died as the original fans lost interest. The new fans are just using the offical forum where they can have their 'all important' interaction. thats right wixy. i think terry did some culling of inactive accounts a few weeks ago. I was hoping the "community" would center around following, dissecting, and maybe even shaping a bit, the evolution of this new way of creating, presenting, and viewing content as it moved beyond the LG context. let's hope it does. things are in the works. vanilla is working behind the scenes with terry and others. I couldn't help but notice the flat response here (10 comments!) to the Wired article which, with all of its insider details, would have set off a hailstorm of comments a couple of months ago. I agree with Les that a lot of the Wired article is old hat to many of us. I loved the inside details, though. Especially the one re two teens spotting Jess at Barnes&Noble in Santa Monica. I recall Bree posting once on a YT comment thread that she had been to Santa Monica once, which really perplexed me.
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Post by hyemew on Nov 20, 2006 9:49:26 GMT -5
In fact, did the comment say something like she had been to Santa Monica about two months ago? I could be remembering incorrectly, but if so that would be an exact throw back harkening to when she was seen at the bookstore. So they very well might have incorporated Jess's visit to the B&N (which was the best part of the article) into her story line. I too was definitely confused by Bree's whole telling us she had visited Santa Monica once but like nowhere else, seemed out of character.
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Post by jayhenry on Nov 20, 2006 10:09:20 GMT -5
Mmm... i read a lot of the old comments, and i have to say the Santa Monica thing isn't out of character. Not one bit. Bree was always talking about the places she'd been or sharing random little anecdotes about her life. That was almost the only thing she did in MySpace comments. Most of these details she never ever went back to.
The Santa Monica move is a reminder of how deft the production sometimes was before September and a reminder of, in contrast, how unsubtle it has become.
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