In this video, Bree reveals that she wasn't allowed to go to Daniel's "Graduation Party." Which implies Daniel should be going to college around now, though its' not discussed in any videos to date.
Bree also reveals that her and Daniel's planned hiking trip was nixed by her parents. Due to her religion.
I'd say this video is when LG15 really started to take off. Over 500K views so far, but even when released this quickly shot to #1 at you tube. Her first #1.
-- I combed through the comments and excerpted things that interested me, including Bree's first denials of being Christian, etc. Note that Bree is very active in the comments.
--- "He's mad at me because he thinks I shouldn't listen to my parents " ---- "Well...He's been my best friend for awhile, I guess it is a little weird but you have to understand that I don't have any other friends as good as him so... " [this post is bit inconsistent with later claims that db is her 'only' friend] ---- "Basically we [meaning Bree and her parents] have the same beliefs but they don't trust that I am old enough and responsible enough to uphold them on my own... " ---- Q: "don't really get what happend. Why can't you see him anymore? Why did they not let you go?"
A: "Well, basically they do this stuff all the time...tell me they're going to give me more "freedoms," encourage me to get out more and then, when I make plans and am ready to do something...they change their mind." ---- "How on earth is not letting me go on a hike with my best friend doing the best thing for me? " ---- (not sure who exactly she is responding to here:) And BTW re: you're last comment...stop complaining about this country, if you aren't hungry and have enough knowledge and education to be on the computer formulating these (idiotic) responses than clearly you are better off then ninety percent of the rest of the world...
And who do ya have that to thank for? Well pardon the timely patriotism but the U...S of freakin A! Oh, wait I'm sorry did you grow up in Ghana? ---
Q: wow just realized you're the same age as Taylor. You should move to West Palm Beach...lol... the kids rule down here... do you live in Kentucky?..lol...j/k
A: hahaha...KY no, thank god, that might even be more boring than where I live...
Later: Is Taylor your daughter? I wish I was street smart, maybe I wouldn't take things so personally
Q: I'm not saying I don't understand your being upset. Being a youth pastor, I certainly would advise parents of the youth I teach not to allow their girls to go away alone with a boy. Or the boys to go away alone with a girl. Again, just my 2 cents.
A: You've seen my videos??? Daniel?? [this exchange predates the Boy Problems video, by the way]
Q [from bear02 - who was extremely active on this thread] hmmm. I find it kinda of odd that you, a youth pastor, as you say are sitting here chatting with a young teenage girl...another pedophile I presume.
A: He's NICE...unlike you...he has a daughter who is my age and unlike you he has never insulted me...sheesh. LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Yes...we were given permission and then it was revoked when we had already prepared everything. ---
He hasn't called me yet...I think he is still mad ---- No he won't call me ---- [bree played soccer?]
Q: soccer kinda toughend all my girls...but fortunately they play tough when they have to be. Off the field they're like you... very nice.
A: I played soccer when I was younger but I got bored because no one kicked the ball to me so I would just cop a squat and pick daisies... [cop a squat is not american teen lingo.]
Q: but if you were my daughter I'd let you go only because you're smart as heck... and I also think Daniel is a nice kid.
A: Thanks, I think they should trust me more seeing as I've done NOTHING to betray their trust or to give them reason to question my beliefs...
---- Q: You should take your parents with you, you probably haven't taken them outside for a walk in a while......
A: Yes, only they have to be on a leash and I would need a pooper scooper... ---
We believe in things that my parents think preclude me from teenage activities. Personally I know that I can keep my beliefs and do the things I want to but I can't explain that to them if they don't trust me...
--- He's just annoyed at the situation...it probably sucksto be friends with someone who can never DO ANYTHING!!
They are very very strict because they don't think I am responsible enough yet ----
Q: Germany lost to Italy...2-0 in double overtime [this is still july 4 or soon after]
A: Great! I love Italy...I've travelled all over Italy!
Q: Well... ask Daniel to take you to the movies...They can't say no to that.
A: Right now I don't to talk to them for awhile
Q: lol I do that to, I find the cold shoulder very helpful to get a point across.
A: Yes...I call it the silent treatment and we definitely won't be speaking for a couple of days. ----
Problem is they have this trump card called in that they know how much I want their approval...it's not that I couldn't have gone with Daniel, I could have, they didn't forbid it, they said that they would be very disappointed in me if I went and that just kills me every time ---
Q: Did I miss something? What's "wrong" with your rents?
A: Nothing...we just share beliefs but not methods of upholding those beliefs
--- THings will work out as soon as I can talk to Daniel but he won't call me
Q: Is it a religion-thing?
A: yes. ----
Q [from JEFFYJackass] wow im so srry bout ur trip. i hope u and daniel can still see eachother. srry again.
A: What happened to the caps sweets? [apparently JEFFY normally posted in all caps] I missed you...where have you been. Look, I post a video about howmiserable I am and everyone responds to it
Q: darkwild... i live in florida, USA... sighhhh We need to bring in more illegal aliens to play soccer...lol or make Brazil another state.
A: hahaha...my dad says make cuba a state to win at baseball
Q: What religion doesn't allow "teenage" activities? Are you Amish or something?
A: ...or something...
A: Well, like I said, it's complicated. Our beliefs are different than other peoples... I don't think my parents trust me and that makes me sad
Q: hmmmm is it a mainstream religion?
Q: Lonely I think you should hire a lawyer to defend you.
A: Know any good ones?
Q: yeah...his name is Ken Goodfried ...he's really good but very expensive...he won the tobacco lawsuit a few years ago case made billions
[FUN WARNING: The post actually said Bob Montgomery, NOT Ken Goodfried]
----- stevexcraig (2 months ago) I'm sure lonelygirl15 can take care of herself. If she needed a watchdog, she could get one.
Danielbeast (2 months ago) Well, actually she can't...but that's what I love about her. [db appears!] -------
Q: lol...Freedom of assembly would that hold up? [in the joke lawsuit]
A: Sure, why not? Something along the lines of "You didn't allow us to freely assemble on our hike at the resoivroir where we wanted to swim! ---
A: Dang, that sucks, girlie. I'm sure that Daniel will come around. From what you said, you guys are really close. Guys show their disappointment in other ways...so, he's just pouting. It's odd to me that your parents let you guys hang out in your room by yourselves, but not go do stuff. I hope your sheltered life doesn't cause you problems in the future. *hugs*
A: Yes, I brought that up in our argument and they didn;t have an answer for it...
--- [goawaygoon]: This guy who runs this blog called liquid generation talks about u:
[milo comments: i think this is the link this guy meant, it's to a June 26 blogpost about Bree:
[Pongman]: Wow LG...you made first page after only 3 hours...that's pretty good [so all the above comments occured within 3 hours of this video being posted] -----
[Emmalina] (a famous youtuber) My first comment on one of your vids! First of all, you're a gorgeous girl, and seem quite smart. If Daniel's feeling frustrated because of the conflict with your parents, you really just need to sit down and talk it through with him - let him know that you're just a frustrated as he is. Your parents will eventually give you some freedom; you just have to prove to them that you're responsible, sometimes that takes a while. ---
Q: Certain beliefs? Do your folks follow some fundamentalist religion?
. . .
A: We R not christian...
Q: What are those certain beliefs of which you speak?
A: Kinda complicated...Purity, responsibility, etc.
Q: What Beliefs? A: In a certain person...in a certain set of rules...and not Jesus Christ! I/we believe in evolution!
Let's see...first off, my parents don't know about youtube...or the invention of the automobile Second. They actually permitted me to go with Daniel they just said they would be very "disappointed".
Don't tell one parent things you don't tell the other...I got into trouble with that and then they resent eachother, not just you...
[Q/Thorn 14] Okay, to the hates, ever heard the saying "if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all?" All that's coming from your mouth (or fingers in this case) is textual diarreah. You probably sit on your butt all day trying to make others feel bad, because you have no self-esteem and because you have some haters for yourself.
A: My grandma used to say that...she also said...Hey Bree, what's the difference between a loaf of bread and a donkey? I said, I don't know, and my grandma said, well that's the last time I send you to the corner store for a loaf of bread. I miss her...
Q: what are your different beliefs? are you mormon or
A: No, our beliefs are not christian or mormon or anything like that...
No...he hasn't called yet, we'll see, I was on IM with him earlier and he was still very upset...whatever. My parents and I share beliefs...We're not Christian or Buddhist or Hindu or anything like that
Q: man just do what you want .. and STOP CRYING.
A: I wasn't CRYNG! I stopped, I never cry!!! ----
Okay, so I just logged in...wow, lots of comments, you guys seem to like the videos where I am miserable
Q: ok, so your totally going to hate me after this, but who gives a shit. i think your a liar. i just read through tons of comments, and its the only logical conclusion. you make it a point to continually mention your beliefs, values and religion, yet wont mention a single one. therefore, you are full of it. you cant be the only family that practices this supposed religion.
A: My family is NOT the only family to practice this religion...it's just that I don't feel comfortable expounding on it because it is personal and you would not believe me anyway...what do you believe? Why don't you tell me since you're so forward...?
. . . .
A: I never said I was ahamed of it...I said that my parents and I have the same beliefs but not the same views of how they should be upheld. What is your problem?
[Q cdg76]: nothing is that embarassing. in my professional opinion (thats right, im a pro), your a fraud. this was obviously done for attention, but i think that your intentionally making it into something other then what it really is. you feel safe behind this iron curtain of your "beliefs" yet have no leg to stand on. im calling you out, spill the beans or come clean. theres more than what meets the eye here people. not everyone can be this blind.
A: OK ask me a question and I will respond to it...
[Q cdg76] called that one. sometimes i amaze even myself. comment everyone seconds before mine, i call you out on being a fraud, and you dissapear into the wood work. for all of you buying this, let my comments prove to be a testament to her incredulous story.
A: Um...I am HERE...talk to ME unless you R afraid to...
I don't have AIM or MSN but you can emaail me and I will respond ---
Q: not the question i was going to ask.... but it is jahovas witness
A: No...really, it's personal...I am sorry
[bree is starting to evade more pointed questions about her religion, and she is starting to selectively answer]
Q: Try to see your parents point of view.You should read some Kafka.
A: I've read "the metamorphosis" and something about camels and such... I liked it, very ethereal and surreal
Right...my parents let me out on the street...they didn't let me go for a hike with my best friend but when I said, hey folks ya know what? All I want to do is score some blow they said "fine" ...Are U one of those kids that rode the "special" bus to school?
[fegrus] 40,000 views?? wha??? [obviously thie video is very popular already]
[nosuperstitions] I can't think of any religion, belief system, sect, etc... that is this timid about identifying themselves. If you are basing your life on it you should not feel odd about saying what it is.
---- [ [JEFFYjackass] YAY I SEE UR A CHEERING UP I LIK THAT! I WAS WONDERIN R U GOIN TO MAK SOME MORE VIDS? JUST WONDERING
A: Yeah, Daniel and I talked and things are okay...how r u?
[Danielbeast] True, but to HER this was a big deal, and it really bummed her out. Just 'cause sum dude in Africa is starving doesn't mean that her feelings AREN'T valid. ----
[Q re 7am leaving time]
A: we had to leave early to have time to hike all day and get back before it got dark...it's a two and a half hour drive up to where you can walk it...
Q: Refresh my memory... That sign at the reservoir says no fishing or what allowed...
A: As far as I know there are no signs at the resoirvoir, there used to be a no swimming sign but everyone swims there anyway and the Park Ranger's don't care
I understand all that but Daniel is my best friend and we have been alone on many occasions and nothing bad has ever happened to us...we just wanted to go for a hike
[Q cdg76 - who is continuing to question lg15's authenticity] anyone else think that she looks like a fat girl on a medium girls frame? huge shiny forehead, GIANT round head, super wide shoulders, big fat droopy eyes. shes gonna plump up REAL big for you Danny boy! better get a saddle and ride this cow to market!
A: You know what? I gave you a warning last night that if you weren't polite I would block you...I'm sorry that you can't learn to play with others nicely...good luck to you...goodbye.
It is a spiritual thing...not a very well known "religion" I really don't wand to go into it and I kind of slipped up in my video. What you need to know is that my parents are very strict and don't trust me to uphold my beliefs [milo comments: why do we "need" to know anything about her? For the plot?]
[ fingah11] Oh and yeah what religion includes in its beliefs "thou shall not hike"
[Danielbeast] pretty wacko one if you ask me.
[Danielbeast] Okay all you freaks So now I have my own youtube page so if you have something to say to me you don't have to say it Bree all the time...
[Danielbeast] No, we're cool. I talked to her on the phone today. This isn't the first time it has happened, trust me.
Q: so basically... danny boy isnt gettin any pussy in a while
[Danielbeast] Just your mom while your sister watched.
[v8tempest] 102,775 views wtf that's just sad
[bukanator] I know...I was kinda wondering the same thing. I've read a lot of her comments and she's very clear that it isn't a christian religion. I can see why she doesn't want to elaborate on it though with all these mean comments on here. People would probably say she was ain a cult or something...
[Danielbeast] Yeah, we planned it for a couple weeks and they knew.... this is what they do... I call them the waffle kings
[McFade] Why the HELL does this video ahve 175000 views
[Akechi180] BREAKING NEWS! KOREA JUST LAUNCHED THE 7th MISSLE!
[This news means we're still on July 5 at this point]
[darancho] . . . 220000 viewings for this video ... Holy shit
We believe in something that is not Christian...it is a religion and I was raised in it but it is not a well known religion. I take my religion very seriously and I am not comfortable going into it in detail on here because as you can see from these comments, most people would be disrespectful...
Thanks. I think most of the gross comments are people who just troll the most viewed pages. My other videos weren't very popular and had none of these negative comments about body parts
[steveM999] Okay I asked my psychology-major neighbor about this. She says there are 4 possibilities: 1) Bree is so good looking and comfortable on camera she might be a fraud; 2) Bree's good looks mean her parents are likely also very good looking and might have narcissistic tendencies which they project on poor Bree, undermining her at the most flowering stage of her life; 3) This is a social experiment designed to elicit the shallowness and animosity among YouTube commenters; 4} Bree's an alien.
A: Wow...if there were an honors section on youtube for comments this would sweep them...Am I supposed to gleen from this that
Noooooo. I am NOT A MORMON. Sheesh, there are other religions that people don't like to talk about when they are a part of...but you're right they are just trying to protect me...FROM DANIEL! Who is very very harmless.
[Lg15 then posts next video, comments slow down]
--- A poster posts link to july 12 article in san jose mercury news which says of youtube: "That's some 2.4 billion clicked-on videos every month -- postings that range from a teenager bemoaning her parents who won't let her go hiking with her boyfriend to U.S. soldiers capturing scenes of combat in Iraq."
Ahh it's the fourth again. Last year's was such a hallmark in the Breeniverse. All through the hunt I'd think back to what I did on the fourth last year and how this went on in Bree's world the same day, whether it was real or not. It was always cool matching up what I was doing with things Bree was doing, because it made the character even more real, whether she was real or not. I was always drawn to Bree or whoever was making her because I felt the writing really spoke to me, and while I didn't think the plot being described were actually happening (those from the old old days will remember the various time conflicts- such Daniel getting a talking to by Bree's dad, and then she not asking him (on camera no less!) what they talked about for a good week, and then there was the whole time discrepancy related to the camp which REALLY made us think that that particular storyline was being faked) it was still cool to think "oh wow mystery girl did this while I was doing that." By which I mean it kind of brought you closer to the mystery, since even though you didn't know who, what, or where she was, you did have this timeline of what they were doing at certain times. Probably is hard to understand or sounds weird but there was something cool about it which definitely added another dimension to this otherwise mysterious person on the other side of the camera who we knew nothing else about and made her exist not only in the Breeniverse but in all of our world's as well.
I'm sorry to say that the centennial... umm whatever the word is for a year later... episode is not nearly as memorable.
Post by curiousgeorge on Jul 8, 2007 9:00:54 GMT -5
What is he laughing about? At me?? I always jump to the worst conclusion first.
Sincerely yours from the former USSR, HyeMew
I don't think that was the intent Hye. I've been doing a lot or work-related research involving improving communication skills. The consensus seems that web-based writing styles that have evolved often lead to ambiguities and misconceptions. This is a big problem in business and is being exacerbated by the entrance of young workers who "grew up" writing this way. Interesting stuff...
Hyemew is our Secret Cove Agent behind the Iron Curtain! Be careful with the Vodka, they are pretty hardcore over there.