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Post by hyemew on Feb 16, 2007 15:57:57 GMT -5
Well milo wanted to talk about, so shall we? As I already explained in my indepth investigative article about it, it's pretty obvious that they are not in the LA area and even more precisely it appears they are in Fresno, California. This is based on a store sign seen in a video that appears to have only one location (and it's Fresno) and the fact that various street signs showed in the videos have the same names as streets located very close to each other in Fresno (and to the store in question).
I have also received word from a source deep within the Order that dehteraews is fanfiction- and that the footage recycling it uses should be a giveaway it's nothing unique from any of the Creators+Glenn.
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Post by milowent on Feb 16, 2007 16:19:13 GMT -5
really, fanfic? well, its well done -- far advanced beyond any fanfic which preceded it, including CiW.
reversed it spells "We Are The D", so that's how i pronounce it.
Glenn pretty much is the Fourth Creator is this point, hye. don't go all crazy at me for saying that.
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Post by hyemew on Feb 16, 2007 16:23:50 GMT -5
LOL why would I go crazy at you for saying it? I know Glenn is the 4th Creator now, but the Creators have always been in referening to that unit of 3 so I prefer "The Creators & Glenn" as the new title when referring to everyone behind the project.
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Post by milowent on Feb 16, 2007 16:25:29 GMT -5
I shall refer to him as the Fifth Beatle.
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Post by Terryfic on Feb 16, 2007 17:03:23 GMT -5
I would actually want to say that it is Glenn & The Creators at this point and not the other way round.
I’ve always thought dehteraews looked more like someone trying to look like Glenn rather than Glenn himself. But I agree with Milo that it is by far better put together than pretty much all other fan fiction out there, with the exception of some of the more recent itscassie stuff, who has recently begun producing much better looking videos. Glenn, supposedly, started out as fan fiction too and was eventually brought on to the team.
I’d say if they are looking to integrate fan material this would be a nice place to start.
Since Canonisation OpAphid has become more and more about Bree and less about OpAphid itself and with the inclusion of the Op videos on the main page I think this will only continue. People will expect the content of an OpAphid video to be about Bree. But before Op was canon they were tell as nice little story about the warring factions between Op and Tach. I think the inclusion of an account like dehteraews would let Glenn return to this story of these two fighting and not having to worry about confusing LG only fans.
Oh, and Hye I hope you are basing this on more than just the fact that it recycles footage, look at the first half dozen Op videos - Glenn is very pro recycling.
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Post by buckwheat on Feb 16, 2007 17:13:32 GMT -5
Milo: If Glen is the 5th Beatle, does that make Bukanator I Pete Best?
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Post by hyemew on Feb 16, 2007 17:21:18 GMT -5
Haha I wouldn't be as so rude as to call Glenn Yoko ;-)
And no, I am not basing my belief it is not canon off of that it uses recycled footage, as I said I have a source.
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Post by milowent on Feb 16, 2007 17:31:40 GMT -5
Milo: If Glen is the 5th Beatle, does that make Bukanator I Pete Best? haha. actually, buka I was probably more like stu sutcliffe, as he was an artist and friend of lennon.
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Post by Terryfic on Feb 16, 2007 17:36:33 GMT -5
And no, I am not basing my belief it is not canon off of that it uses recycled footage, as I said I have a source. I bet Hye's source is t
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Post by milowent on Feb 17, 2007 9:02:05 GMT -5
NEW dehteraew video. "Maneuvers" www.youtube.com/watch?v=crWeRZoJ5Bwnow we have a speaking male addressing all the lg15 characters. he admits he is in Fresno, how hilarious. this one feels like it was shot last night after "watch this!" came out. that and the dialogue makes it move into the non-canon category in my mind. but its still well done.
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Post by hyemew on Feb 17, 2007 11:09:18 GMT -5
Or you mean shot last night after I mentioned up the Fresno thing I found DAYS ago! Talked about it here but they must not come here, it's clear they monitor the phorum though! I mean what fanfic-maker wouldn't? BAHAHA the "Tachyon, I have nothing to say to you line"!!! DRAMA DRAMA wooooooo!
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Post by milowent on Feb 17, 2007 15:15:36 GMT -5
Or you mean shot last night after I mentioned up the Fresno thing I found DAYS ago! Talked about it here but they must not come here, it's clear they monitor the phorum though! I mean what fanfic-maker wouldn't? there you go again, hye! :-) i mean shot after they knew the watcher showed up and jonas' house and they were on the run again. if it wasn't shot last night, then they knew the plot in advance.
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Post by hyemew on Feb 17, 2007 16:55:28 GMT -5
I believe it's a mix of both. I believe they will keep on using clues from each video as they are released to build their own plot. Meanwhile, in this particular one they did have to explain why they have been filming in Fresno when it's 3 hours from anything LG related (including the northern CA locations). The explanation is hardly believable though as the character makes it seem like the three characters were seperated and he himself was sent to Fresno. However all the videos from the beginning have been in Fresno so it wasn't a very good excuse they came up with. They needed to face this accusation head on though or else it'd be clear they weren't near Bree and it'd be silly to pretend like they were in her story without explanation.
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Post by Terryfic on Feb 18, 2007 5:20:54 GMT -5
Umm.. Hye, I’m not sure it would be silly for them to shoot in Fresno and pretend they were near Bree as that is sort of how all movies work. I cannot count the number of times I notice that films set in America are very clearly shot in Toronto. I think in a story where secret double agents are trying to blow up a character, the level of disbelieve is already suspended so high that not shooting in the exact location you are suppose to be doesn’t really matter.
Overall, I found this one a little underwhelming. I liked that the narrative that this video was rushed was reflected in the production of the video. It wouldn’t have worked as well if this episode was as polished as the others. But I wasn’t blown away by the dialogue. I suppose I am most disappointed by the fact that it seems to be another story about someone one LG’s side being followed. Just like many many other fan fictions. I was looking forward to some OpAphid assault team action. He could still be another Gemma Agent trying to gain Bree’s trust, but that would be a little too derivative. I hope the story continues in a more original direction. I’m holding out hope that this could still be a quality story.
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Post by hyemew on Feb 18, 2007 10:22:21 GMT -5
No, what I'm saying about Fresno is plain old logistics. Fresno is 3 hours away from LA and 3 hours at least away from that brief time they seemed to have been upstate. If this is canon, it's by someone involved with the creators and therefore only in those areas. Especially notable is done in the style of Glenn and so if canon would presumably be by him.
The fact he'd go three hours to film this when he very well could have filmed the same thing anywhere is what makes no sense. I mean, sure Glenn or an associate of the creators could have made the three hour trek to Fresno to film, but why would they? This is why that fact screams fanfic to me.
Also I really don't understand the story. I've watched all of them but it's so much into that disjointed-action-packed style that I really can't understand it. I know who have three people who seem to be fighting the Order, but beyond that what is going on? It looks like they dispersed in episode 3 or so, but it looked like they were on the run earlier. It sounds like he's been assigned seperately to Fresno, but the three of them appear to have been there all along. They seem to be seperated now, but why? What are their purposes? There are so many questions and the only answer we have seems to be that the main character is mad at Tachyon. Which begs the question why?
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