Post by stantheman on Sept 19, 2006 2:31:11 GMT -5
I'm very taken with the vlogs of www.youtube.com/profile?user=Taraiscrushed but disturbed by the many comments she gets accusing her of being fake. It's like deja vu. Makes me wonder: Has the LG15 phenomenon made it harder for vloggers with unusual situations to be taken seriously?
Post by VanillaFlava on Sept 26, 2006 13:25:19 GMT -5
Yeah true. But is that really such a fundamentally new development?
I mean people must have thought the same thing when they uncovered the first Usenet poster who made up a convincing alternate persona and maintained it for several months, while convincing people of their authenticity.
The only difference being the medium is video now, and it reaches a much wider audience.
I guess, YT losing their innocence had to happen sooner or later. People crying fake now, just have to grow over it yet. I doubt anyone making video blogs is doing it completely unaware of their own presentation, most have created a YT persona anyway, that is not exactly their real-life self. So now, people will do it in a planned fashion. But it hasn't been exactly real before anyway.
I agree Vanilla that it was going to happen sooner or later and that to some degree it's been "fake" all along. And the haters need to stop. What a bunch of mean no-class idiots our society has produced!
But too many cooks ya know, isn't a good thing either. Or is it?
I'm just excited that we are seeing a new form of media emerge. These short serial sitcoms. I think this idea has a way of changing our world and the way we idolize actors. If "anyone" can have a TV show, it might change the world we know today. So people will change too and not care what underwear Paris Hilton has on (or doesn't have on) because there will be too many "stars". Imagine 10,000 shows to choose from. Personally, I think actors are paid WAY too much money anyways (pls don't throw tomatoes at me) when we have homeless and starving kids in our cities. Yes acting requires skill, but what profession doesn't? teaching, caprentry, etc all require skills and barely pay enough to live on, let alone feed and cloth a small nation for a couple days work.
Ok, off my high horse. I think it's exciting. I want this to happen. I believe in the distribution of wealth.
Imagine 10,000 shows to choose from. . . . I think it's exciting. I want this to happen. I believe in the distribution of wealth.
The only sad thing about this will be you won't be able to go in the office in the morning and say, hey did you see [Desparate Housewives or another top-rated show] last night? Everybody will be on their own points along the Long Tail, watching their own shows. The same thing has happened to music in the last 20 years.
Post by VanillaFlava on Sept 26, 2006 16:04:08 GMT -5
Are you guys all so convinced it will really go that route? I mean there are tons of independant filmmakers who now totally have the ability to get their stuff out there, for sure. Or even before, produce at a fraction of the cost for the past couple of years.
Where's the content though?
I just wonder if people will lap it all up so easily. I mean the reality wave has already cusped here in Europe, I think. I believe people will still want to see good entertainment, quality produced, telling a good story.
Brookers is funny, but I'd go nuts having her on my screen every night, to make a crass example
Unless you can make money with it, all you will see is semi-pro stuff at best. It's similar to what everybody has been predicting for blogs. I see it affecting and contemplating the conventional media in a really useful way, but I don't see it replacing it altogether.
With journalism I guess the criterion is perceived authority and integrity, and with entertainment it's good storytelling and to a degree production value.
I think there will be a wave for sure. I just don't think everything else will drown in it.
EDIT: To make another example, I will believe this is a huge evolution once somebody gives me Battlestar Galactica on YouTube. Until that, fun diversion and fresh take, bite-sized. But heck, where are the space battles?
Post by morninglory on Sept 26, 2006 16:27:19 GMT -5
I don't think another blog will replicate the sensation of lonelygirl, real or fake, for a long while. Youtube is becoming a new media but it is only a year old. To me it's like a new ebaumsworld. Soon they'll be a newer way to watch videos, that's even better than youtube. Possibly longer, better quality, more professional? Who knows, I just think we're on our way. We're not at the end yet.
and for the record, I'm not a fan at ALL of taraiscrushed. She's corny and even if she is real, she seems fake. In a plastic way. She's lame. I hate her. hahah. I'm usually not so against youtubers, brookers and smosh and all the rest...power to ya. But tara...get outta here.