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Post by milowent on Sept 18, 2006 0:05:29 GMT -5
lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=718Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: Cassieiswatching is NOT Official -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cassieiswatching is an independent fan creation. We are really excited to see fans creating their own storylines and riffing on our characters and our Universe. Although we encourage creativity and storytelling by our fans, we cannot be responsible for the outcome of the Cassieiswatching story or its content and imagery. Watch it if you like, but know that it is not official, nor is it guided by our team or a "splinter group." We have plans to incorporate more ARG elements into LG15 so we are excited to see such a vigorous investigative response to cassieiswatching despite the fact that the subject matter is darker than we would like. We will leave the cassieiswatching and related forums open so you can discuss it if you like. The most important thing is to have fun! The Creators
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 18, 2006 0:08:49 GMT -5
I'd just like to add that while they will keep those forums open, we here at Anchor Cove will not. Any "cassieiswatching" discussion is prohibited. Thanks!
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watson
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Post by watson on Sept 18, 2006 0:25:45 GMT -5
Good call! The second Cassie video crossed the line between decency and indecency, and the moderators ought to consider that as well as the potential risks posed to younger members of the board participating in what they think is a harmless ARG.
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BaileysMom
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Post by BaileysMom on Sept 18, 2006 7:58:41 GMT -5
I'd just like to add that while they will keep those forums open, we here at Anchor Cove will not. Any "cassieiswatching" discussion is prohibited. Thanks! Reason #508 why I love this board!
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Post by wixy15 on Sept 18, 2006 8:32:39 GMT -5
I'd just like to add that while they will keep those forums open, we here at Anchor Cove will not. Any "cassieiswatching" discussion is prohibited. Thanks! I'm not sure that is a good decision. While I understand the nature of the video's is somewhat inappropriate and the creators have distanced themselves from these video, I still think that we should be able to discuss the Cassie videos. I do however admire your desire to 'protect' us all from these videos, although some of do not want to be protected. I understand this is a LG15 forum, but surely there can be a little space for the Cassie videos. I mean we talk about other video's in the 'other media' section.
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Post by milowent on Sept 18, 2006 8:34:48 GMT -5
wixy - people can differ on the decision, i think, but it was a judgment call that i agree with. it looks like the official forum is going to allow some continuing discussion of this, and the ARGers have their own boards too.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 18, 2006 8:35:49 GMT -5
wixy: If you would like to discuss the Cassie videos, there are two other places you can do so. The Lonelygirl15 forums, and the Unforums.
I'm sorry, I just don't want that crap here.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Sept 18, 2006 9:08:29 GMT -5
It was the right decision!
Thanks for being a grownup group of mods.
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vespamonkey
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Post by vespamonkey on Sept 18, 2006 14:30:39 GMT -5
Way to go, guys. I'm glad that this is not part of the original lonelygirl saga and I'm glad you've kicked it off. I kept thinking, if I was a relative of those people who were murdered, I would be outraged that a picture like that was floating around.
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Post by wixy15 on Sept 18, 2006 15:21:35 GMT -5
So are we deleting the Cassie section or what then?
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 18, 2006 15:27:07 GMT -5
wixy: No, we're not, because there's still CANON Cassie. There is still the Cassie that Bree mentioned in "Swimming"
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Post by wixy15 on Sept 18, 2006 15:44:38 GMT -5
Oh ok, fair point. At least change the description though, it's no longer about spin off's is it. Can't you put it in a character or similar section
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 18, 2006 20:05:03 GMT -5
I'm just figuring out how to do it.
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cbowen4
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Post by cbowen4 on Sept 19, 2006 20:46:09 GMT -5
I must admit that I was shocked to see the “Warning about CassieIsWatching”. Yes, I’m perfectly aware that CassieIsWatching has been disavowed by the people behind Lonelygirl15, but even their sanctioned web board has not banned discussion of this topic. Part of the reason I considered this board much more interesting is that I got the impression that discussion on this board would be unlimited. We’ve known for a long time that the other board is run by the creators and that led to this board being more popular. Nobody here was going to yank a thread because they didn't want something revealed or didn't agree with the topic. Now, it seems you’ve decided to make a clearly related topic off-limits for discussion. Maybe you think the CIW topic is disgusting, bad, or whatever, and I might even agree with you. But it clearly is related in some way. If nothing else, whoever it is knows shooting locations. Either way, it’s a new story, maybe a spinoff or whatever you want to call it. At the very least, it’s another element in a new world that LG15 has helped to create. I can see partitioning it off, I can see clear notices about the separation, but I can’t understand banning it completely from the board. And, it's not just that no threads will be allowed, it's a clear "we'll ban your IP" if you even mention it threat. If the LG15 story seems to suggest theories you disagree with or maybe find offensive, will they be struck because you "don't want that crap on your board"? I was surprised by the people questioning the impartiality of the moderators on this board when they had always clearly demonstrated complete objectivity and fairness before. But, between the mapping of www.childrenofanchorcove.com, your titling the board “The Children of Anchor Cove”, use of the term “Official LG15 Chatroom”, and more strict control of content than the original board, your board is now starting to seem very "corporate" and "official" itself and I think that's a shame. Maybe I'll get banned for this post. If so, so be it. I've just never been that thrilled with censorship in open discussion forums and the path between slightly off-topic and censored can be very slippery.
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Post by milowent on Sept 19, 2006 21:52:20 GMT -5
cbowen4 - ehh, should i even wade in to this? speaking for myself, your complaint is duly noted. it's nice that even the disgruntled posters here are so well spoken like you.
line drawing is never an easy exercise, and you make a case for why you would have drawn it elsewhere. you can discuss CIW to your hearts content at the official board, which you might note has overlapping moderators with this one. but overwhelming support has been voiced to myself and other moderators for the decision that was made.
if CIW encouraged behavior like, let's say, killing stray cats, you'd probably cross the line we did. you wouldn't be accused of impartiality then, except by those who favor killing stray cats, i suppose. there are problems with simply cordoning off selected content on a board like this.
as for being more corporate, hopefully The Creators will one day offer us a cut of the $0 they have made off this project so far! :-)
i hope you stick around.
cheers, milo
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