lets be resonable

[bigciafan]

hi first post. been here for a few days. been watching lg15 vids on youtube since day one. i was intrigued by the whole she is not real thing and decided to check out the forum.
here is what i have to say.

i dont nessicarily think she is real. my theory is that she is a college student just having some fun on youtube. (anyone remember the whole emokid21ohio thing on youtube?).

her vids are obviously put up there to drive a plot forwards. there is no need for her to put up some of the stuff she does. ie the asking about cassie thing. or the dont light the candle thing.

personally i am more excited to think that this iss a viral marketing thing than to think its just s omeone goofing off.
i have always been intriged by that kind of thing.

i do not think its an arg. because like some have said. there is no audience involvment.
i also think that the vids and the myspace are all there is too it. non of this cassie email stuff or brian flemming or gohepcat. so i take all of that with a grain of salt.

but lets be resonable here.
she is a real person. being a real person, people have to know her. i have heard said, someone has to know her. to know who she is. why havent they come forward?
like a friend who was hers when she was 6 or something.

but i say this. many people wonder how her parents dont know she is on youtube, being as popular as she is. maybe they dont really know. if noone has come forward that is because they dont know either.
i think those two things support that she is real.

she doesnt have any friends. her one friend she has, daniel, shows up on her vids. so we know he knows her. anyone else who says they knows her, they dont ahve any proof.

that seems to confirm to me that she is infact a homeschooled kid will very little friends.

hope that made sence

[crackityjonesjr]

All we know for sure about "Bree" is that she is an attractive young woman who occasionally wears a flat gold band on the ring finger of her left hand. She has presented no evidence that she is either 16-years-old or homeschooled or lives in a small town that is three hours from the nearest mall. I would love to believe that she is what she claims to be, but thus far I have no reason to think that anything she says is true.

[bigciafan]

crackityjonesjr said:

All we know for sure about "Bree" is that she is an attractive young woman who occasionally wears a flat gold band on the ring finger of her left hand. She has presented no evidence that she is either 16-years-old or homeschooled or lives in a small town that is three hours from the nearest mall. I would love to believe that she is what she claims to be, but thus far I have no reason to think that anything she says is true.

ok you are entitled to that. and i am not disagreeing with you here as much as i am playing devils advocate.

your logic is false. you say that you have no reason to think what she says is true. well some people might have no reason to think what she says is false.

if you are basing that theorum all on your skepicism then it is paranoia. to belive that someone is not who they say they are.

if she were out making outlandish claims "i am the emporer of china" then you have a case.
but she niether claims to be real or claims to be false. and she shouldnt have to prove that she is real. how do i prove i am real? how do you prove it, or anyone?

[kayleigh724]

That's the question, isn't it? What would have to happen in order for people to believe that it's real? There's nothing that Bree or anyone could say that would change the mind of the people who are already convinced it's not, is there?

[crackityjonesjr]

I don't believe my logic is false; I believe it is smart. Blind faith is not a good thing.

Edit: If you want to believe that "Bree" is a lonely, homeschooled 16-year-old girl simply because she claims that she is, then I can not stop you. I just choose to believe otherwise, as do a majority of adult persons who have viewed her videos.

[bigciafan]

crackityjonesjr said:

I don't believe my logic is false; I believe it is smart. Blind faith is not a good thing.

Edit: If you want to believe that "Bree" is a lonely, homeschooled 16-year-old girl simply because she claims that she is, then I can not stop you. I just choose to believe otherwise, as do a majority of adult persons who have viewed her videos.

i just want to clarify that i dont think that. i do think it is a viral marketing campain for some product. and i really want to know what that product is. and i dont think its anything that people have thought so far.

i think it either that or just kids goofing off.

i am just trying to see things from every side. every angle.

[newone]

bigciafan said:

crackityjonesjr said:

All we know for sure about "Bree" is that she is an attractive young woman who occasionally wears a flat gold band on the ring finger of her left hand. She has presented no evidence that she is either 16-years-old or homeschooled or lives in a small town that is three hours from the nearest mall. I would love to believe that she is what she claims to be, but thus far I have no reason to think that anything she says is true.

your logic is false. you say that you have no reason to think what she says is true. well some people might have no reason to think what she says is false.

if you are basing that theorum all on your skepicism then it is paranoia. to belive that someone is not who they say they are.

but, using your same logic, it seems that crackityjones's logic is not false.

She says she is a 16-year old living at home with her parents with only one friend-daniel. yet she wears a *possible* "wedding" ring. regardless of whether you think she is that old or anything else, those two things seem to be *mostly*mutually exclusive. You can't really be what she says she is and be wearing that ring.

and, say is who she says she is, wearing that ring is defianately going to get people to ask questions about you.

i hope that all made sense.....

[bigciafan]

newone said:

but, using your same logic, it seems that crackityjones's logic is not false.

She says she is a 16-year old living at home with her parents with only one friend-daniel. yet she wears a *possible* "wedding" ring. regardless of whether you think she is that old or anything else, those two things seem to be *mostly*mutually exclusive. You can't really be what she says she is and be wearing that ring.

and, say is who she says she is, wearing that ring is defianately going to get people to ask questions about you.

i hope that all made sense.....

you do make an interesting point. i was only trying to say this.
that some of that is stretching it. i know it seems wierd. but go to your local wal mart or mall today. and look at the teen age girls. when i went to high school (10 years ago) some of them wore rings on their ring finger. she has mentioned purity. the church i attend (it is a christian church) they give purity rings to the kids. they are worn on thier ring finger. so its not uncommon for that to happen.

my point is we can all look at the "evidence" and come to any conclusion we want to. but there is an explanation for a lot of things presented. reasonable ones at that

[newone]

right. I, too, have a purity ring. However, in all the magazines, conferences, friends, whatever, that I've ever seen, no one has EVER had a gold one. Obviously they are out there, as a quick google search would reveal. However, I would still question it because 1) they seem to be so rare in real life, and 2) she shops at target and alloy, she doesn't seem to be so wealthy that a "special" gold ring is necessary when most people get silver.

I doubt it's a purity ring though. People have stated that only Christians get them, and she has said that she isn't Christian.

[kayleigh724]

Yes, being a 16-year-old girl who's never had a boyfriend is mutually exclusive to wearing a wedding ring, no one is disputing that. But not all gold rings are wedding rings. Not all rings have religious significance (or any significance). If Bree is a character played by an actress, the first thing the actress is going to do when she prepares to shoot is take off her wedding ring, and the first thing the editor is going to notice is if she didn't. In other words, it's most likely not a mistake. Either it's something we're supposed to notice, or Bree just has a random ring.

Anyway, yes, it is a fallacy of logic to say you "have no reason to think that anything she says is true." I don't think it's real either, but it's unreasonable to put it that way.

[brianmpei]

It's still a fair question. And the truth is we don't KNOW it's fake. Yet. But it's also true we don't KNOW it's real, not because we're jaded but they've tossed out so many things that make it all seem made up. Once more people post her picture someone will step forward somewhere. If she went to public school, even for a week, someone WILL know her and finally speak up.

[auret]

those purity rings are quite often gold, many of my female friends in college wore them. they are often given by the parents to the daughter as a gift. they are worn on the left ring finger and signify abstinance until marriage and i've known girls who still wear theirs on their opposite hand after marriage.... in fact i've been to wedding ceremonies where the groom removes the "promise" ring from the bride's left hand and places it on her right before placing the wedding ring on her left.

and those rings are not specifically a "Christian thing" they are a chastity/abstinance thing... although they are quite popular among Christians for obvious reasons.

[jessica]

youtube.com/profile?user=Jessica1Hollywood0

[corcaroli]

jessica said:

youtube.com/profile?user=Jessica1Hollywood0

Jessica, would you please explain why you posted this link?

Thanks.

[mettle]

check out the major LAT thread.

corcaroli said:

jessica said:

youtube.com/profile?user=Jessica1Hollywood0

Jessica, would you please explain why you posted this link?

Thanks.