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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 9:01:41 GMT -5
Anyway by your account: as jamin isn't a myspace friend of kyle or johnny, but a myspace 'friend' of Bree, your only interest in him was to get to Bree. Not t. And that's just one problem with the narrative that goes: your interest in taking the DB account etc was to expose t. The only narrative that doesn't work is yours bren, I don't know what your trying to expose but its not making sense. Mine is this, if you go back to the old forum, there was a bunch of people discussing Jammin and if he was actually a friend based on besides his note to her I think something she wrote back. I forgot nor care now. So I added him to see what the reaction was. He had no connection to Johnny, but seeing as Johnny was a fake I don't see why that's necessary. At this point I didn't know Johnny was t, it was early on, I was using the same thing I used on t to attempt to expose other "friends" of Bree as well. Now if you don't mind, I'd appreciate if you'd drop whatever this quest is to discredit me because it's getting really annoying. And thanks for the defense socal, you got it right.
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Post by johnnypanic13 on Sept 7, 2006 9:11:58 GMT -5
Just got this p. message at the lonelygirl15.com forum, guess who must be amongst us here in Arcadia! just lost your queen. From: t To: HyeMew Date: 09/06/2006 03:29PM did you really out smart me? Just to be paranoid.... what if that is actually a reference to Alissa helping with the admin functions at the LG15 forum? Or am i giving "t" too much credit?
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 9:18:06 GMT -5
Probably giving him too much credit-- As you'll notice, I resigned from there anyway. I think he was just trying too hard to be mysterious, to Hye.
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 9:22:32 GMT -5
hyemew, can I point out that you started this thread because t was shaking you down on the other forum.
As has also been pointed out you participated in the misinfomation on the other forum until you fell out with t.
"I'm not your toy just to throw around." You said to johnny. Actually you were throwing him around. He was close to Bree and you rode with him hoping to get close yourself.
Then it rather sounds as if you blackmailed him: " What you said to me in your earlier messages was more than enough to raise eyebrows (and by eyebrows I mean Bree's eyebrows and by Bree's eyebrows I mean expose you). I'm no ordinary LG fan. I also have talked to Virginia Heffernan of the NYTimes quite a few times in the past. I'm not going to publish any of this stuff though. Now that I'm in on the game, I find messing with their heads and watching the reactions to be just as fun as you do. I want to keep this quiet just like you. However you will fill me in on the details. "
And when t had enough of that, unsurprisingly, and started leaking your PMs to some people on here the whole show had to fold.
I think you're the biter bit.
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 9:36:19 GMT -5
You better as well believe I was blackmailing him. I put him in a situation where he'd have to come clean or else. He could have chosen to say "yes I'm involved with her, here's proof" or "no, I admit I'm t, don't tell anyone". If you could have told me another way to get things done, then by all means, but if I didn't play along with t by posting a couple (make that two) of the misleading messages he wanted me too I wouldn't have gotten enough from him probably to admit it. The reason I didn't reveal that I was db sooner is because I still wanted to use that tool to investigate future "friends" and to waste such a tool would be ashame, but after t kept maligning me here I decided to come clean about it. I think any good investigator here could have put together the clues though that db was fake, and it actually had been said numerous times at the old forums with much certainty.
BTW, you said I had a "falling out" with t... were you at the old forums?! How can one "fall out" with someone they were never "in" with. The alliance was a rouse to get him to believe me (and that I wasn't HyeMew).
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 9:47:10 GMT -5
Okay, even though Hyemew tricked us, which I'm sure makes a few of us feel betrayed, he was only trying to use the tools and tricks of the game to his advantage to gain more knowledge. He didn't really do anything out of bounds when it comes to that.
Isn't this what it's all about? The game? Having fun. Using what resources you DO have to figure things out about what you don't know.
Can we really blame him for wanting to play?
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 9:51:16 GMT -5
Thank you alissa. In my opinion, we should ALL be smart enough to not believe people who give no proof of being real. t gave no proof he was real and danielbeast on myspace gave no proof he was real. This is not to mention the fact lots of people at the forum (and danielbeast on yt himself) already admitted the myspace one was fact. So I don't think that much of a rouse was committed on those who were investigating.
I'm sorry if you feel hurt/betrayed, but I think I did a service to the forum by exposing t (the reason I don't not reveal it sooner also was because the shit hit the fan literally the morning after it got going, and I was in classes during a lot of that. I was waiting for the right time to reveal him and would not have continued to leave those idiotic clues from t forever. Make a seperation between what HyeMew and especially danielbeast said to t as part of the game and the real forum member.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 9:54:28 GMT -5
Yes, Hye, thank you for exposing 't'. Even though he seemed VERY off, I was still on the fence about him, and now that I know for sure, at least I won't waste my time.
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 10:33:42 GMT -5
Okay, even though Hyemew tricked us, which I'm sure makes a few of us feel betrayed, he was only trying to use the tools and tricks of the game to his advantage to gain more knowledge. He didn't really do anything out of bounds when it comes to that. Isn't this what it's all about? The game? Having fun. Using what resources you DO have to figure things out about what you don't know. Can we really blame him for wanting to play? I'd come to the conclusion, before hyemew's post, that he was either playing DB on Myspace, or he actually was DB. It would depend who t was, and whether t had any connection to Bree or not. I don't blame him at all. It may be a surprise, but I have a lot of sympathy for hyemew. There aren't many of us in here, compared to the hordes at youtube, and I've a feeling we all in our own way feel some 'special' connection with Bree (or maybe with The Game). What bothered me was that hymew's narrative muddles his interests in Bree and t, and doesn't hang together. Problem for hyemew is that no-one else here has had their interest so exposed. He has had a major hand in that, but there's also an element of his bad luck, and just lucky for everyone else. The thing is (and I was going to say paradox but...) t - is actually one of the good guys. In so far as we understand who he was, he was participating in the game for Bree's benefit. His falling out with hyemew exposes that we on the other hand are in this for our own. And our interests don't necessarily coincide with those of Bree, or The Game. Some of us want to be Bree's friend, some of us like checking out Bree's hot bod (see other threads . Mostly we've been pretty cagey. What's my psych? LG15 is the best tv I'm watching atm. It's also the most fun I'm having online. So I'd love it to continue. However, I also like the sleuthing... but if I found out who Bree was....or had any connection, I'm not sure that I wouldn't behave like t, and try to keep it a complete secret. That's "t revealed", to me.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Sept 7, 2006 10:48:36 GMT -5
I also like the sleuthing... but if I found out who Bree was....or had any connection, I'm not sure that I wouldn't behave like t, and try to keep it a complete secret. That's "t revealed", to me. Ditto. If I had the Answers I would probably be in on the game from the other side, albeit (hopefully) with a little bit more sophistication than t.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 10:49:22 GMT -5
It all depends on which side of the game you're on.
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 10:52:55 GMT -5
Umm... my "interest" in Bree has been exposed? So let me get your narrative straight- By being a poster here on the forums I want to be asked to star in Bree's new video? If anyone is actually here for that reason I'd say leave right now because its pretty damn absurd. I would hope those that know me well enough know I'm not stupid enough to think THAT. Also, if I really was serious- WHY WOULDN'T I EMAIL THAT TO BREE INSTEAD? Why would I go to someone like t who I KNEW was fake? I was doing it so he wouldn't suspect HyeMew in the "greater game". I was trying to look vulnerable. I'd really appreciate it if you'd cease your rampant speculation. IT WAS A PLOY, JEEZ. I'm sorry I had to bring all of you in but I couldn't just p. message the rest of the forum saying "don't believe myspace danielbeast, it's me". Eventually word would get to t. I did not reveal all just because he was messing with me. As I said in an email to milo_went, I was preparing to do it anyway, when things had progressed just a bit more and I could point to more than just one request to "post this, say that". However with t harrassing me and making me look like an idiot to others in the forums, I decided that time had come.
Regarding the alleged "revelation" by you and t of my interest in Bree: My interest in Bree is I have always thought her videos were cool and intelligent. I thought she was intriguing and wanted to learn more. Now I'm hooked like the rest of you. There, my "interest" in Bree has been exposed. I don't see the planets (sans Pluto) crashing down around me yet.
I'm not going to promote censorship, but I think my character has been questioned/assassinated to such a point here now by someone who for whatever reason has taken to investigating me instead of Bree, that at least some of these back-and-forth posts should be deleted. It's unfair to me as a long-time member of the forum to have all this sh*t said about me by someone who doesn't even know me and to my knowledge had only joined less than a week ago.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 10:55:27 GMT -5
Hye, I told you before, I can't justify deleting any of these posts. I'm sorry.
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Post by johnnypanic13 on Sept 7, 2006 11:07:00 GMT -5
There's also plenty of support for you in this thread. The back-and-forth is getting a little tired, I agree, but i think it's important that people have someplace to get it out of their systems. The myspace DB profile kinda opened it up.
I confess, I felt a little betrayed/frustrated. I know I was barking up the wrong tree, but I spent a chunk of time following links and clues off of the DB myspace profile. True, you didn't let us bark up that tree for long, and you came completely clean, so I think it's all good in the end.
it's just the way the Bree-cookie crumbles....
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 11:25:59 GMT -5
Thanks johnny. Hope you didn't spend too long. The only thing to really investigate pre-Johnny on myspace antics was the fact Kyle wrote to me. That was while I was trying to figure out if he would say anything revealing he knows Bree (and I talked to him yesterday, not as danielbeast haha. Still claims he knows her from NZ). Other than that, it was just the t/Johnny mess that drove everyone crazy. That really only lasted a night though, my one and only myspace post to him was yesterday morning (per his request, which I could then turn around and use to expose him. It really demonstrated how everything was working, a friend like that robby would post him, and immediately after t would post one of his "clues) and by evening all was revealed. The only reason I was going to wait a little bit longer was because I wanted to do that once more in case any naysayers called it a fluke, but whatever. Once t started messaging things about me to people (and NO, this was NOT a falling out breedalent, we were never "together". He was bad-mouthing h-mew whom he did not know was myspace danielbeast to begin with) I figured I had enough evidence to convict him anyway so all was revealed. If that still sounds confusing to one or two of you, I'm sorry. Everything is confusing when it comes to our friend t. There's no better way I can explain it though. And so now we are at the end of all our exploring when it comes to me and t. We've arrived back to where we've started- knowing nothing about Bree like the first time. (But at least t and all future anonymous tipsters are exposed as not to be believed.)
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