brendel99
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 6, 2006 21:24:25 GMT -5
Well, jamin isn't a myspace friend of kyle or johnny, so I guess there's some other connection: 29/08/2006 20:49 jamin to hyemew/DB: Dude I knew you'd cave and get a myspace! lol As much as you protested about it! Thanks for the add brutha 29/08/2006 21:36 Hyemew/DB to jamin: Course I confirmed, was the least I could do for my boy Got a call from Bree lately? Peace, Daniel da Beast 31/08/2006 11:28 jamin to hyemew/DB: That Jasmin girl is ok. She was asking me questions about Bree's religion though which was pretty strange........(~_~) Love your new video by the way! Almost as good as mine lol! Peace homey! 03/09/2006 18:09 Jamin to LG: Bree you're a bit too eclectic for me yo! Naw but you gotta stop sweatin' me with the music tho! You know I had that up the other day Chill! lol j/k'in I'll holla at you lataz
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west
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Post by west on Sept 6, 2006 21:44:32 GMT -5
I don't know if i am a fan of this trickery. Most moderately perceptive people could tell that "t" was a fake way before this charade.
The fact that hyemew fed the disinfo campaign for so long and didn't come clean until he was maligned by "t" to others on the forum makes me wonder if he would've come clean at all.
The db myspace was also pretty clearly a fake. No pic other than ones from YT. No Bree as a friend etc.
I don't think it helps your credibility in the long run and not much was gained.
I think people trying to expose a fake or get to the bottom of this should stay on the up and up.
If not, how can we trust you and how can you think of yourself as better than the tricksters?
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Post by tunafish on Sept 6, 2006 21:44:36 GMT -5
Well done Hyemew! I take my hat off to ya. You make my db stint look like childs play. :^)
You're my hero!
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Post by morninglory on Sept 6, 2006 22:06:07 GMT -5
tunafish...you're t?
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brendel99
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 6, 2006 22:09:17 GMT -5
west, looks like you've a bit more guts than I have. If you scroll up or back to my post you'll see hyemew had basically run out of time re him being DB on myspace, and a lot of people had realised there was sthg up with that page and how it related to the forum. Actually I was tipped off by someone else here. So not really an original idea. Trouble is I then put together a PM instead of posting. Same with my posts in the Our friend T thread where I ran a pm against someone and lost time. My fault. Truth is in the end t started the shakedown. And not all the pieces make sense to me, frankly. There ya go Could start with 'jamin' (see above).
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west
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Post by west on Sept 6, 2006 22:09:56 GMT -5
It looks like he is taking credit for the person who posted as db on the old phorum.
(To clarify this is in response to morninglory on tunafish.)
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Post by hyemew on Sept 6, 2006 22:18:08 GMT -5
Seeing as jamin seems to believe daniel was daniel, I don't think he's involved. I also don't think lonelygirl would accept any real world friends (as the character has none and its unlikely the actress would drop such hints as to list her real friends. Also the guy just seems to be a random fan in Maryland). I say no reason to pursue jammin at all.
Re: my creditability. I really wasn't trying to trick anyone. I created the DB so no one else could take it and do worse. The only times I ever tried to perpetrate fraud was when I was trying to expose another fraudster. If I had said "I'm doing this guys, but don't tell anyone", well I don't see why anyone would expect me to do that. I think we all should have learned (an already obvious) lesson from this- never trust anyone. If someone is leaving you random hints like t was, but offers to proof, why should we investigate and build theses around him? Never trust anything without proof its real or when its from something like the patent website. If I hadn't carried out this operation, many people here would still be investigation leads about Kylie and t and confusion would reign for the forseeable future. If this lessens my creditability in your eyes, then I'm sorry about that, but in that case I don't want creditability from you anyway.
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west
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Post by west on Sept 6, 2006 22:26:15 GMT -5
I really wasn't trying to trick anyone. Then why pose as db? Take the page and don't pose as "the db." Problem solved. "t" was an obvious fake. You fueled the fire, leading him on, prompting him, cooperating with him, setting up more clues etc. Your credibility is already shot. I could believe you were sincere in your efforts, but you went about it the wrong way.
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Post by vitanova on Sept 6, 2006 22:33:22 GMT -5
The next installment is much more absurd and it will be clear to everyone that it is all meant to be a joke. care to elaborate?
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Post by hyemew on Sept 6, 2006 22:39:37 GMT -5
Keep reading them to find out!
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 6, 2006 23:26:40 GMT -5
hyemew, as I've posted elsewhere, it may be the way you express what is a complicated situation, but you leave as many ripples as there were before. You wrote in this thread about jamin: He is one of those I added to see what the reaction would be since he was a suspect of being involved. However he totally seemed to believe I was db so I assumed he's another poser. Also being from MD made me really doubt he even knew her (because at the time, with friends in Ohio, Maryland, and Miami, well that sure is all over the place for a girl who never leaves her room!) Well, I'm puzzled. Who were you looking for, Bree? or t? You posed as DB and jamin bought it. And presumably he still does. But he's apparently in the wrong part of the country. And you posed as DB to t/johnny, and he bought it. But he's in the right part of the country, for what, to actually know Bree (?) Well it turns out, he kinda does, as he's been in touch with her, by your own account. Fact, he's closer than you are, and he's posting in the other forums on the understanding that she's aware of what he's posting and will tell him to stop if need be. So to me, he's basically operating with their blessing. But you decide to do something about that. You also write: Seeing as jamin seems to believe daniel was daniel, I don't think he's involved. I also don't think lonelygirl would accept any real world friends (as the character has none and its unlikely the actress would drop such hints as to list her real friends. Also the guy just seems to be a random fan in Maryland). I say no reason to pursue jammin at all. Well, no-one's pursuing him, you've already done that, and that's not what I asked in a previous post. I understand everything further up, but not why you picked him.
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 0:05:53 GMT -5
I'm sorry for not being clear, though I don't really understood what you meant above, like t being in the "right part of the country"? To know Bree? He's from Miami, that's actually the complete opposite side of the country. And the only reason I pursued Jammin because people at the old forum picked up on Jammin messaging Bree something about calling him. So they assumed he was an old friend somehow or involved. So I added him from DB, and he believed I was him (which someone involved with the case would not), nor did he say anything revealing about his relationship with Bree. But we could rule him out as being involved at least, or a close friend. The only reason I brought him up back here is because one or two people were discussing him as a possible person involved now that t's been discredited. I don't understand the great about of confusion my reason gave you.
Meanwhile, notice Bree's number 2 or 3 friend, Lydia. I added her as DB as well. She accepted it, and we were friends for about a day when suddenly I was unfriended. I questioned her about this but got no response. A sign of Bree intervention? Having "real life" friends (whether we know they are or not for sure) that are friends with DB would have given him creditability as real, so presumably someone in the LG15 team saw that and told her to unfriend DB.
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Post by shont2006 on Sept 7, 2006 0:37:32 GMT -5
hyemew,
Best post ever!
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 7:41:50 GMT -5
And the only reason I pursued Jammin because people at the old forum picked up on Jammin messaging Bree something about calling him. So they assumed he was an old friend somehow or involved. Ok. I'm guessing you mean this: 03/09/2006 18:09 Jamin to LG: Bree you're a bit too eclectic for me yo! Naw but you gotta stop sweatin' me with the music tho! You know I had that up the other day Chill! lol j/k'in I'll holla at you lataz But you see, there's this: 29/08/2006 20:49 jamin to hyemew/DB: Dude I knew you'd cave and get a myspace! lol As much as you protested about it! Thanks for the add brutha ? Anyway by your account: as jamin isn't a myspace friend of kyle or johnny, but a myspace 'friend' of Bree, your only interest in him was to get to Bree. Not t. And that's just one problem with the narrative that goes: your interest in taking the DB account etc was to expose t.
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Post by socalgrl on Sept 7, 2006 8:16:17 GMT -5
Brendel, I think that Hyemew's interest in Jamin was to see if he was involved or not (ie nothing to do with getting to Bree or t). But it became obvious that Jamin wasn't involved, so that's one more person we don't believe.
The conclusion is that we can be fairly certain that no one on the DB myspace is involved with this project, as they would KNOW the myspace is a fake... (Hyemew, did I get that right?)
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