Interrogation 101 [2.28.2007]

[milowent]

www.lonelygirl15.com/?p=196&play=1

Summary
Bree didn't want me to, but I needed to talk to Jonas. It didn't go as well as I'd planned.

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Milo adds:

Where Bree and Daniel cross the line between petty crime and torture.

comments from wednesday night chat:

<milo_went> whassup folks
<JayHenry> oh hey, new vid
<milo_went> really, ok
<milo_went> off to watch

<JayHenry> Jonas is going nuts!
<milo_went> video slow loading ...
<JayHenry> I hate it when there's a new video, it slows the LGPedia down so bad
<JayHenry> BITCH!!!
<smashing> I'm still waiting for the page to load. It's been like that for me the last few videos
<JayHenry> the first use of the word bitch!
<smashing> I can't read this. you're spoiling it.
<JayHenry> hahaha

<Terryfic> If they have had Jonas tied up for like 48 hours+ wouldn't he have soiled himself pretty badly at this point
<smashing> shit...I give up on it loading. Go ahead and talk about it.
<JayHenry> it loaded right away for me
<Terryfic> Just go straight to Revver to load it
<Terryfic> one.revver.com/watch/189819
<milo_went> bitch! my word
<smashing> thanks for the tip, Terry.
<smashing> I got it now.

<milo_went> that video was freaking crazy
<milo_went> so far beyond anything they've done before
<milo_went> breaking and entering is nothing compared to this
<milo_went> its lord of the flies
<Terryfic> This is very lord of the flies
<milo_went> and the last line killed me
<Terryfic> who would have thought Jonas would go from Poochie to Piggy
<milo_went> no joke
<milo_went> fickle world
<Terryfic> What was the last line.. about Daniel being a part of the Order?
<milo_went> yeah, jonas is no more part of the order than i am
<Terryfic> That would be beyond dumb if they both were
<milo_went> typical fodder for plot discussion threads
<JayHenry> that video was R-rated, huh?
<Terryfic> I was half hoping Daniel would untie him and then Jonas would take a swing at Daniel. The video would go black. Then go back to Jonas talking to the camera with Bree tied up in the background saying somethign like 'Come and get her Tachyon'
<milo_went> jonas did a good job acting on this one
<milo_went> was it about the hike? great line
<JayHenry> okay, but realistically, Jackson Davis could obviously rip that chair to pieces
<milo_went> that jump rope wouldn't hold em in reality
<Terryfic> Yeah, despite this clearly not being LG15 anymore it was well done
<milo_went> is the chair tied to the floor?
<Terryfic> I figure his legs would have to be tied to the chair at least

<Terryfic> Do you think after a video like this that P Monkey or Owen could ever reappear in the series?
<smashing> It annoys me when Daniel or anybody on the show says "none of this makes sense" because it exposes even more how none of it makes sense!

<smashing> oh P. Monkey'll be back.
<milo_went> p monkey may be pulling out jonas' fingernails in the next vid
<smashing> he'll boogie on his grave
<milo_went> bree: "p monkey said i should kill you"
<Terryfic> The bit about Bree just leaving Jonas to die seemed a little out of place
<milo_went> jonas "its a f***ing monkey, bree, let me go"
<JayHenry> they really should have done more with the descent into stuffed animal insanity

<leslieb> I just watched it. My my jonas
<leslieb> jeckell/hyde
<smashing> I'm on Jonas's side.
<leslieb> I think Bree is the evil/crazy one

<leslieb> this whole thing happened because she didn't want to do the ceremony
<smashing> There's no context for any of this.
<milo_went> "you're a bitch" that line just kills me
<JayHenry> what sort of answers do you want about the Order?
<smashing> who are they?
<JayHenry> they're a vaguely Thelemic cult
<Terryfic> The sames ones I want to know about The Others
<JayHenry> fictional
<smashing> why did they kill Bree's Dad?
<JayHenry> because they're a dogmatic cult
<smashing> Why doesn't bree go to the police?
<milo_went> i hope in the next video, we see bree on the bed, and jonas and daniel are playing some board game in the background, and she says, so, me and jonas and daniel talked, and everythings back to normal now!
<Terryfic> switch the Ceremony for the Smoke Monster and LG and Lost have the same problems with too many open mysteries leading no where. And both are losing viewers because of it
<leslieb> lol milo
<Terryfic> lol that would be great
<smashing> good one milo.
<JayHenry> Bree doesn't go to the police because she believes that the Order has connections in the police
<milo_went> i mean, how do they go back to normal after this? you know in real life it would be very hard, but they'll gloss it all over somehow
<smashing> all police everywhere?
<JayHenry> I don't like the answers either
<JayHenry> but they have given answers
<milo_went> clearly they should call tachyon
<leslieb> what is the ceremony? Will she be killed? Why do they want her and only her so badly?
<milo_went> "glenn, please save our plot again!"
<smashing> no they haven't. Bree is not retarded. Daniel is not retarded. That is inconsistent with their behavior.
<smashing> they have avoided answers.

<milo_went> i guess thehill88 won't be showing up at the cabin anytime soon
<JayHenry> she could have been a good cameo too...
<Terryfic> No way! You guys are just haters and aren't real fans! You have to have faith in the CREATORS they are awesome and this show is awesome it will only get more awesomer!!

<smashing> lol
<leslieb> nope
<milo_went> until its the awesomest-est

[hyemew]

This is nutty.

[Phoenician]

Man, this situation is getting DIRE.

Great video though -- I still hope Jonas comes out clean though!

[hyemew]

"<milo_went> p monkey may be pulling out jonas' fingernails in the next vid"

I like Jonas now, but I'd PAY to see the above!!

"<leslieb> I think Bree is the evil/crazy one"

OK, during the scene where Daniel shows Bree sitting outside on the porch sitting cocoa or whatever, did anyone else suddenly get the picture of "diabolical villain"?! The way she was calmly, stoically, stonily just sat there gazing out sipping while someone instead is being tortured reminded me of evil villain movies. She came across as diabolical to me!

Also seeing as what Daniel and Bree are doing is illegal, not to mention traumatic for everyone involved, it really makes me wonder why they uploaded it. Furthermore it sounds like Jonas's words were excentuated or something through editing, which made it seem very weird that Daniel would do that to make things seem even more dire and dramatic. If you were in that position and truly upset by it you wouldn't be doing that, but of course there's nothing to read into here as we've come across similar things in the recent past.

[trash180]

Wow...I really felt bad for Jonas.

Daniel's gonna cut him loose and Bree will flip out. Is she really going to go to the brink of crazy and come back from this? The Order hasn't hardly done anything to them, but they sure get themselves in trouble. Is this cabin fever? Haven't they been only been there like a week?

Well, it was a very powerful video, but man...what now, eh?

[curiousgeorge]

Pretty good acting from both, especially from Jackson. He was really good in this. If not anything else, I think watching both he and Yousef gain acting chops as the series has progressed has been an interesting process. The editing and direction by Glenn were pretty good and appropriate for this genre. At least they played homage to Tarrantino if they were going to do a scene like this...

The plot makes no sense to me. Still.

ETA: From the phorum thread: Screengrabs of Jonas (closeups of his pissed off eyes) show some pretty striking similarities with that of Op. NOT the same person, but shot the same way... Red Herring or "Meaningful" by Glenn?

[flwright]

Thanks for the chat transcript, Milo. I knew the party would really get hopping once I went to bed.

FLWright

PS I haven't watched TortureBree(tm) yet, I'm afraid it will tear any memory of OldBree to shreds.

<edit later> OK, watched it. Very good acting all around. Everyone, including Bree, has just managed to add more depth to their characters. There's a battle going on deep within each one and I can't wait to see whether the good or the bad ultimately wells out. I'm rooting for the good in all of them.

[wixy15]

Not to sure about the acting in this one, felt a bit unnatural to me.

At the Daniel really seemed to be calling out to the fans. He seemed to be asking what should happen next in the series. The series needs a concrete plot thread with little bits of funkyness thrown in, it does need over 3000 writers, no wonder no one has a clue what is going on.

[slainte]

I-I -I just don'tnow what to say here. I mean yes the episodes are still watchable and yes their acting is getting better. If there was ANY doubt whatsoever that Lonely GIrll 15 has discarded its innocence well...here it is. She said it in the last vid and did it in this one. No one is going to fuck with the Breester no more and Daniel better play ball or he'll end up like Joan, tied up and left to starve in a mountain lodge (NOT CABIN).

I never liked Joan. I stood my ground even as some of you started to melt over his charm. Bah!

I have to take issue though with the incredibly bad manners of any house guest that would behave this way. It's one thing not to know wich fork to use but it is quite another to tie up and interrogate ones host. It's just not proper. I can't help wonder what Miss Manners would have to say about this.

Shame on Bree for being such badly behaved young lady. I think her home schooling might have been better if it was had included Cotillion.

I blame her mother.

[milowent]

a good observation from the phorum thread:

TommyIsCancer said:

TommyisCancer: Time for some thoughts...

We all know the line that got everyone talking. "Jonas is no more a part of the Order than I am." [milo adds: this is getting a lot of play at the phorum.] I think this line was obvious that it simply can't mean anything. The creators probably threw it in for fun just to make us go crazy. (And we did! )

I do think there is something to how Bree was raised by overprotective parents while Jonas was left to his own devices. My money is still on the idea that Jonas' parents are Bree's REAL parents.

I like the idea that the very different ways in which bree and jonas were raised is significant to the plot. a classic device in fiction pointing to them being siblings.

[curiousgeorge]

milowent said:

I like the idea that the very different ways in which bree and jonas were raised is significant to the plot. a classic device in fiction pointing to them being siblings.

ZOMG! Here we go again!

Well, I think we went down that road before and it got kinda, uhm, interesting as it evolved .

Bree and Jonas (and possibly Cassie) are clearly Gayliens. And potentially Zombies.

[harlequin]

"This is F****ing ridiculous"

this video ends what was left of the pg13 rating....

tho on an interesting note

"Jonas is no more a part of the order than I am"

a little foreshadowing maybe? or just another red heiring that this series seems to be so fond of.

I mean you really have to wonder if the order is as inept as they have been portrayed...but then again I've lost just about all faith in the series so the burden of the proof is on them to tie everything together now.

[hyemew]

"Jonas is no more a part of the order than I am"

RED HERRING. It was clearly thrown in there to make the phorumites go crazy because it was so easy to tell it would. There is no real meaning to it.

[wixy15]

What does the 101 in the title *mean*?

[slainte]

HAH!!!!! My thoughts exactly CG. We will have to dig up the sibling thread though because it fell way down after the split out!

HAH...not a RED Herring Hye, but a very hot PINK Herring!!!