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Post by milowent on Jan 25, 2007 21:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by milowent on Jan 26, 2007 2:01:54 GMT -5
lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=170724#170724nikki responds in character at the phorum: Hi Everyone: Just for the record, I am not canon. I am a fan just like all of you. While I do have anonymous sources and tipsters, I am truly investigating as one of you would. I enjoy investigating the trials and tribulations of Bree, Daniel, Jonas, Tachyon (wow the list is growing by the day)... and P Monkey of course! Thanks for watching and tune in next week...when we investigate: Where's Gemma been? Nikki B
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Post by hyemew on Jan 26, 2007 2:44:31 GMT -5
I loved the "I am a fan just like all of you". It is so odd coming from who was most likely one of the creators or Amanda. It's like having a king staring down at you saying "oh no, ignore the crown, I'm one of you!" Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, I am a fan just like all of you!
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Post by Smashing on Jan 26, 2007 3:04:26 GMT -5
That's priceless: a character saying "I'm not canon." It acknowledges that the story is a fiction apart from reality, while not acknowledging reality. I'm getting dizzy.
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Post by slainte on Jan 26, 2007 9:12:58 GMT -5
"Hey...I'm just an actress that plays the role of reporter who happens to be an actress playing a fan playing the the role of a reporter..."Frankly I thik it is a little insulting, and it does not speak well at all to the integrity of the authors. I wasn't around for the original "outing" of things. Did they deny that in the beginning as well? It pretty much calls into question the entire premise that they "listen" to the fans (and if it is the Phorum phans they are reffering to then maybe it's best if they are lying!) and of course it puts the last nail in the coffin of "Miss Holly whatever her name is" as far as I am concerned. Probably they went overboard with the original Cassie and aborted when things got scary. It's hard for me to guess about others since many of the more talented ones here have alter egos of varying influence and purpose. Let me try a few...just my musings is all Gemmaa friend of Jessica's so they gave her a couple shots (intuition) Immantrenegade...not a Cover but maybe a LG15 partner just a WAG on this guy Greystoke dork - indpenedent Paul and Andreanot dorks - independent IrisIndependent but sometimes I think maybe he knows someone close to production It's Cassie I love her so I am hoping she is a Cover or at least an independent. On the other hand if she's cannon maybe we'll get to see alot more of her OpAphid and Tachyon is this one settled I don't mess around with this too much it makes my brain hurt but I would guess they are definately LG15 creations ApotheosisAZWay too funny to be LG15 might be Cove but maybe even too funny for that - I'm thinking independent Voyboy - independent Ms Kelly well I have a little bit of a teacher things so I better keep quiet, especially if she turns out to be a he Xeniph - Yikes! Lonesome OctoberI sure hope he was (still is maybe) Cove because his stuff is right in line with the humor I see here. His PMonkey farewell was a pretty classy "Sign off" Ok...now I'm totally distracted by wathcing all these other vids..so long... oh yeah Nikki B...I almost forgot...whatever.
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Post by twjaniak on Jan 26, 2007 9:48:05 GMT -5
I loved the "I am a fan just like all of you". It is so odd coming from who was most likely one of the creators or Amanda. It's like having a king staring down at you saying "oh no, ignore the crown, I'm one of you!" Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, I am a fan just like all of you! I've known of Nikki's secret for some time now. I'm pretty certain Nikki B on the forums is actually the person we've seen on screen. From what little I know, she's not cannon the same way Bree and Daniel are, since they are characters controlled by the scriptwriters. Nikki B is a character though much like LordGreystoke and the LG15-concerned version of myself, just one who has unfair access to tremendous amounts of inside information.
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Post by milowent on Jan 26, 2007 11:13:39 GMT -5
tw, i think your description of where nikki b falls sounds about right.
its not fanfic, its FRIENDFIC!
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here's a fun post from the main website front page comment thread:
gemmas flatmate (send note) Says: January 26th, 2007 at 3:53 am Just a thought - a few days ago I sent a note to the creators telling them about mossymansions great song on youtube, saying that although obviously it couldnt be used in the actual LG series at it would detract from the realism, but maybe Nikki B could use it in one of her montages in her next video. (I have always just assumed Nikki was canon) Anyway they replied thanking me and saying they would check it out (actually the phrase was “thanks I will check it out”). Its greatly suspected that milowent is Miles and if there are posts in the forum or notes from the creators its usually him? Well after I sent this note suggesting a background song for Nikki by coincidence milowent reaveled Nikki’s true identity. (i.e she is officially part of the show) Maybe they thought “Look if a fan who is bad at working things out like GF has decided Nikki is canon, then its probably time to do a reveal!”
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Post by twjaniak on Jan 26, 2007 12:16:33 GMT -5
Its greatly suspected that milowent is Miles and if there are posts in the forum or notes from the creators its usually him? Well after I sent this note suggesting a background song for Nikki by coincidence milowent reaveled Nikki’s true identity. (i.e she is officially part of the show) Maybe they thought “Look if a fan who is bad at working things out like GF has decided Nikki is canon, then its probably time to do a reveal!” TW looks around the room suspiciously and then bolts for the nearest exit
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Post by Terryfic on Jan 26, 2007 12:24:07 GMT -5
Yeah, the in-character denial of canonization was a little odd. I would consider her meta-canon in that she is an officially sanctioned story about the story, but really the label of something being canon or not isn’t that important. I would put the series in the same category as OpAphid as being supplemental information about LG15.
The real story is of course the issues this raises about ‘fan interaction’. I’ve never really been a proponent of the idea and don’t think that it will work, but nor do I think they should pretend it is happening by staging their own. Their dishonesty at the very beginning of the series in implying that the series was real never bothered me as they had no official out of character place to post that stuff, but at this point I don’t think they should be lying (if only by omission) to their viewers.
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Post by hyemew on Jan 26, 2007 12:30:54 GMT -5
First welcome back Tw. After not seeing you posting anywhere since your abdication, I thought you had teleported out of the Breeniverse completely. The real story is of course the issues this raises about ‘fan interaction’. I’ve never really been a proponent of the idea and don’t think that it will work, but nor do I think they should pretend it is happening by staging their own. Their dishonesty at the very beginning of the series in implying that the series was real never bothered me as they had no official out of character place to post that stuff, but at this point I don’t think they should be lying (if only by omission) to their viewers. Amen, I agree completely with everything you just said. Frankly that's the way it is, and the Creators need to adjust their tactics to accomodate those realities.
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Post by slainte on Jan 26, 2007 14:27:25 GMT -5
Tw...your reputation preceeds you. I've always felt this was the "big boy and girl" forum. Your presence adds to that perception.
I'm not surprised that once you took a couple of Bree-les breaths you came here to get your fix.
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Post by twjaniak on Jan 26, 2007 16:22:47 GMT -5
Tw...your reputation preceeds you. I've always felt this was the "big boy and girl" forum. Your presence adds to that perception. I'm not surprised that once you took a couple of Bree-les breaths you came here to get your fix. It was inevitable. I've been a long time lurker here, but felt that contributing here would be a betrayal of the official forums that I was in charge of maintaining. Let BK have the forums, I just want to be a fan again.
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Post by Terryfic on Jan 26, 2007 19:50:56 GMT -5
It was inevitable. I've been a long time lurker here, but felt that contributing here would be a betrayal of the official forums that I was in charge of maintaining. Let BK have the forums, I just want to be a fan again. I'm really happy to hear that you will be coming out of the shadowy corners of the Cove a little more often. I remember when you were just a little tike in the newly formed CiW section who won the hearts and minds of his peers and I promoted to moderator, and who eventually grew up to take my crown when I stepped down as Lord Bukanator the Third. *in my very best Will Ferrell voice* You're my boy TW!
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