Gemma and the order

[gemma]

So now that we know Gemma isn't exactly who she says she is, what do you think is going to happen?

There are a couple of scenarios I had thought of...

1. Gemma is just on the side of the order and has been all along, trying to get Bree to go home so they could find her.

2. Gemma is still part of the order and didn't really want to make the videos and deceive Bree but did so because she was afraid of the order.

3. Gemma had indeed left the order (but lied about her whereabouts) but they tracked her down and threatened her (could have been before the 'scared to go home' video) into making more videos for Bree. In this scenario it might turn out that all the videos up until scared to go home were actually from Gemma, but the ones following it were made at the request of the order (like Bree's videos after the ceremony.)

4. 'Gemma' is not even the girl Bree knew as a child in the commune. Lets face it, if Bree hadn't seen her in years she might have believed anyone was Gemma as long as they had a picture of a dog the same breed she had when she was younger. The order might have just picked a random girl from the religion to pretend to be someone Bree mentioned from her past.



This whole Gemma issue also obviously means that the order knows about Bree's video blogs. Maybe this is another scenario where we will have to suspend disbelief.

[hookedonmonics]

if scenario #1 is true, then it would seem that every video from gemma has been moot. We can't trust a bit of information from her (that is, unless the order isn't evil...but let's not go there) The confusing point about this is her version of OpAphid, and that OpAphid basically called it a Santa (lies we tell children). If she was working for Op, why would she even bring up OpAphid, just to lie about it? This option invlves alot of fuzzy logic (no stranger to the lg15 team, I know, but still...)
if option #2 is true, then the things she says directly to Bree are false, but she may have hidden messages to bree in the stories she tells.
if #3 is true, it could very well be as you mentioned, gemma. She did quite an about face after the watcher video. I mentioned in another thread that ocd gemma wouldn't have a dead flower still in a vase. That could be a clue to bree (or the creators' clue to us) that she's not being herself in the post watcher vids.
#4 could apply to at least #1 & #2, so I don't have anything further to go into.

My question, which is only peripherally relevant is: do we *know* that OpAphid=order? Could Op be a anti-order organization? Are the watchers part of the order, or could they belong to an anti-order? Maybe Gemma is "officially" undercover for the order, but more deeply undercover for Op. (for any Harry Potter fand, think Severus Snape: double..or is it triple...agent) my head is spinning.

[curiousgeorge]

Another option is that fan reaction to her character was kinda meh. Soooooo, the creators decided mid-stream to make her a part of The Order.

This kinda thing explains a LOT of the plot and character inconsistencies we see. I don't think this is "interactive", just bad casting/writing with a bandage applied to remedy it.

[hyemew]

Gemma hasn't logged into youtube for two weeks. Months ago that would have been suspicious. Now it's just them being lazy :-D

[slainte]

hyemew said:

Gemma hasn't logged into youtube for two weeks. Months ago that would have been suspicious. Now it's just them being lazy :-D

Slainte smiles and in a light-hearted way says:

"all due respect Hye...but wow, that's kind of a dig isn't it"

[lesbrent]

I think number 3 is a possibility. Gemma left and they've coericed her back.

But since Bree and Daniel have been being tracked and watchers shown in videos all this time, the most unbelievable and frustrating thing for me is that if the Order wanted Bree, they could have taken her many many videos ago.

[Phoenician]

I don't know what's going to happen . . . but I would like a video of her FROM her at some point in this series this year. Personally, I think it'd be pretty interesting to see her try to explain the entire thing, deny it, or even not hide her exposure and chew out Bree, Daniel, Jonas, etc.

But that's just me.

[milowent]

it would be nice to have something from gemma, phoenician. she could deny the order connection - saying the video was old video from when she was in the order 2 years ago, or something. if she never shows up again, it would be weak if no better explanation is given.

[lesbrent]

Yes, Gemma is long overdue for a blog. She has some explaining to do, I think. To disappear makes no sense to me.