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Post by oweniscool on May 14, 2007 16:07:52 GMT -5
Julia is played by Amanda Goodfried's younger sister, Shannon Solomon. Amanda explains how Jules got the part in this forum post.
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Post by hyemew on May 14, 2007 17:40:40 GMT -5
And the guilt trip just keeps on rolling. One thing doesn't add up about this- while I understand the sisterly bonding via creating videos thing... it seems a little too convenient that they would just so happen have these videos lying around from months before, never uploaded, which just so happen to work with the plot.
Furthermore, this story would imply that BDJ actually DID go to Texas just to film their little Jules scenes (which seems completely needless, it's not like we ever see a single thing that screams "we're in Texas"). That, or they flew a 14 year old halfway across the country in the middle of the school year into LA at the last minute just to film a few torture scenes.
This story does support the aspect of how Jules's "stop hating me video" was clearly filmed somewhere different than the first couple videos-- but did she somehow film that one all by herself, or had she already made it to LA to begin the torture when they did that?
...And there were "no scripts"? A 14 year old cheerleader just came up with a Count of Monte Cristo metaphor all on her own?
It just seems to me like it'd be a LOT easier to find an actress (they're in LA after all!!) within a few days notice who'd be of a more appropriate age and acting ability- and perhaps just have her act out what Amanda's sister had already done- than to see a girl with no acting experience from halfway across the continent as an emergency last resort. There is just no apparent reason to me, contrary to what the Amanda apologia says, for why the Creators would have to resort to this. In fact this explanation leaves more questions than answers as to why they would feel they had to use this most convoluted and difficult method.
Sorry if I sound overly investigative or whatever, Amanda, it's just a bit hard to understand!
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Post by milowent on May 14, 2007 21:06:41 GMT -5
time for another installment of Proving .... Hyemew ... Wrong :-) One thing doesn't add up about this- while I understand the sisterly bonding via creating videos thing... it seems a little too convenient that they would just so happen have these videos lying around from months before, never uploaded, which just so happen to work with the plot. here's my theory: julia was originally just going to be one of a number of potential new girls. amanda obviously knew of this plot line far in advance since they would be casting actors, etc. amanda has already done the nikki b vids, so she thought it would be cool to have her sister be one of the candidates, and shot some footage based on that. But she wasn't intended to be the actual new girl. (imagine the intended new girl was JULIA, not JULES, thus explaining the naming issues? that seems a stretch though.) also, the famous deleted comment of callmejules24 on a nikki b video (see the jules entry in the lgpedia if you haven't head of this) is some proof that jules was not originally intended to be the new girl. i don't see why they had to go to texas. instead, julia shot the 1st three vids in texas with amanda. then the next few (including the last solo vlog) were shot in LA over a weekend at a later time. no big deal. the only proof that anyone went to texas was nikki b's video shot in el paso. This story does support the aspect of how Jules's "stop hating me video" was clearly filmed somewhere different than the first couple videos-- but did she somehow film that one all by herself, or had she already made it to LA to begin the torture when they did that? its possible. amanda could have helped with the improv. just keep the camera rolling, you'll get something usable. was it is really a few days notice, or a few hours notice? amanda's post makes it sound like it really was a last minute withdrawal. "finding a new actress" in a rush cannot be done instantaneously, i can see amanda's explanation as plausible (Even if not 100% complete).
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Post by elixir on May 15, 2007 6:48:32 GMT -5
Julia is played by Amanda Goodfried's younger sister, Shannon Solomon. Amanda explains how Jules got the part in this forum post. I don't know what her appeal was that she was hired in the first place... very weird indeed. I still think her or her parents know the creators! She's like the Tori Spelling of the Breeniverse. She has to be... Cool, I called this one. Yay! I got something right!
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Post by milowent on May 15, 2007 7:50:48 GMT -5
nice call, exilir.
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Post by hyemew on May 15, 2007 8:43:38 GMT -5
Well first let me point out Nikki B's "El Paso" video was filmed outside a California chain restaurant with El Paso in the name. Second was there really a matter of hours deadline involved? Because for example last weekend, as with most weekends, there were no videos. That's a full 3 day silence coming from BDJ, even though the current plot is extremely time sensitive. Don't see why they couldn't delay premiering a video a day or two due to an emergency. Finally, if the actress really dropped out with seconds to spare and they went ahead and used Jules.. well we'd still need to know if this was already they had posted some new girl videos including Jules, but then had to go ahead and use Jules by making a video which mentions her or what? There wasn't that long a time before Jules actually did show up in their world, did they really fly her in for those scenes? I guess I'm not really going anywhere with these questions, as they don't really matter and isn't something we can figure out ourselves.
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Post by milowent on May 15, 2007 11:25:33 GMT -5
Well first let me point out Nikki B's "El Paso" video was filmed outside a California chain restaurant with El Paso in the name. haha. i didn't know that. i think i relied on a post you earlier made when that nikki vid came out, to make me think she had traveled, i may have misread it. valid points. i think the time involved became an issue though. remember the creators were headed off the england for 12 days or something when this was coming down. maybe the use of nikki to identify jules was part of the last minute workaround. yeah, me too.
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Post by elixir on May 16, 2007 0:09:26 GMT -5
Here's a theory:
What if the new girl was meant to be Sam (Taylor's friend). I think it was. I think they were introducing Sam through Taylor - Taylor being a vlog poster who watched Bree, and therefore could tell Bree about her.
All of Taylor's vlogs were about her friendship with Sam, and there is that un-aired video where Sam was meant to come over to Taylor's house. They were definitely building to something here. But it seems to have been dropped - probably because the Sam actress dropped out.
Now, as for time constraints. They were going to England, and I'm sure that Jessica and the others have other commitments, so they had a deadline for when they could use BDJ. Now, what if they could get Daniel and Jonas on the same day to do those bunker filler episodes, but Bree could only come in at a time when the other two couldn't. Or something to that effect.
So Amanda comes up with using her sister - who was meant to just be a decoy like the other fan-fic new girls. They can get her sister out to act with the others, and they don't have to worry about her pulling out.
So then they try to figure out a way for Bree to find Jules, as the way of Taylor telling Bree about Sam is now not possible. So Amanda calls her good friend Nikki B, and then the gap is bridged. But they still incorporated Taylor and Sarah as a way to find Jules, and to bring some new life into the series as they knew the bunker episodes were bad.
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Post by robtomorrow on May 16, 2007 2:07:50 GMT -5
That makes a lot of sense elixir, especially the part about Sam being the intended new girl.
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Post by hyemew on May 16, 2007 8:02:01 GMT -5
Elixer that sounds really good. Miles had insinuated things got really screwed up, so that matches something like building towards one character when all of a sudden everything gets ruined by an actress dropping out. Makes total sense, good job! (though I still think in that case it'd be much easier in LA to just find another girl to play Sam than flying in a girl from Texas. Presumably it'd take at least a day or two to arrange the sister to fly in from Texas, and they'd probably have to work around school schedules- unless she too is homeschooled, so seems a bit like they'd still have time to replace Sam than having to use Jules- but we're getting closer.)
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Post by hyemew on May 16, 2007 13:01:51 GMT -5
I tend to think she was put out there on purpose- not forced upon the canon as is portrayed. There's no real way to know either way though.
I also do think the whole Texas thing is to throw off stalkers, that definitely makes sense. They already think we're all stalkers after the hunt for Bree. They don't get the difference between the essence of what went on with the Bree mystery and regular actresses. They think that because we were curious about Bree- who to them was just an actress all along- we automatically want to hunt down every actress they throw at us.
I know I got in trouble in one of those (now deceased I'm sure) Mixed Media chats. Jackson was saying how he's from a small town outside Philadelphia, an area I'm very familliar with. I asked a few times for what part, since when you know the area you're curious. It's not like he lives there now or anything and I'd go there to find him. But mandylou made a comment on asking that connecting it to me being a stalker based on my behavior first with Bree.
I'm hoping and sure she was joking, but at the same time in the mysterious world of the internet you really don't know what the perception the person on the other side has of you or what they're thinking, definitely hoping she doesn't ACTUALLY think that about me but who knows!
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I Know More About Internet Video Than Wikipedia
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Post by trash180 on May 16, 2007 22:33:58 GMT -5
"Your honor, I'd like to enter into the record, hundreds of pages of posts about one 'lonelygirl15' by the defendant known as High mew...It's clear the defendant is prone to obsession with teen-aged girls and sudden fits of rage about their actions and as such is a danger to my client."
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Post by hyemew on May 25, 2007 13:11:34 GMT -5
"wheres that lil shit of a sister of yours i need to kidnap and tie her up again... but seriously .. lucy you need to stop wearing that suit .. its freaking summer!! well soon " -Jess to Amanda via MySpace, LOL I love it
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slainte
Very Very Sr. Cove Sleuther
Bad Boy Of The Breeniverse
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Post by slainte on May 25, 2007 19:56:26 GMT -5
I don't know exactly why (and NO I am NOT stoned) but this group is really cracking me up tonight!
I used to think it would be cool to have a big get together, but right now I am thinking we would all be apprehended and committed to protect us from ourselves and the community-at-large.
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