west
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Post by west on Sept 12, 2006 18:26:27 GMT -5
This is the most bogus part of it all.
New art form?
Has anyone heard of chapters in a book? The serialized novel?
Episodic television?
Sequels to movies?
The only thing new is the delivery mechanism.
Thanks video distribution on the internet (YouTube etc.).
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Post by VanillaFlava on Sept 12, 2006 18:54:09 GMT -5
I think you are kinda missing the point on this one ... uhm ... by like a margin of a decent sized freight train.
The original video snippets are just the trigger, or the fuel so to speak for all the other content. I mean if you just had the video it would be pretty lame ... now take in all the interaction here and it does get more interesting. I mean, we created like 99% of the content, when it comes to sheer man hours put in speculating, writing, discussing etc.
I think the best quote so far came from Brian Flemming 'It's not about the girl. It's about the game.'
Think about the ARGs, Cathy's Book, and other ventures into more interactive and immersive kinds of storytelling and you are getting closer.
I think TV as we know it is pretty much dying (or already dead for some). For the marketer, a format like this offers an icredible and unprecedent opportunity to build amazing brand loyalty (something they have felt on LOST in the opposite way, hence the new ARG). For storytellers an opportunity to interact with their audience and maybe to even shape the story while it is 'simmering' with the audience.
All in all, no, this isn't brand new, but for the first time it has a chance to hit the mass market, and I think that's actually quite amazing.
Will they pull it off? Probably not, because they seem to be talented amateurs, they just scratched the surface. Hopefully they don't cash out (which I suspect they will though). Nevertheless another creator will follow behind them with the experience and the control to steer this home. Will be cool to see.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Sept 12, 2006 19:06:11 GMT -5
Vanillaflava. Word, Wordy, McWord.
Yes, they are doing the whole game better with "Lost", but the whole delivery medium of the web has made this more interesting, IMHO. That it was purported to be real at first was the "catch" that sets them apart, with Blair Witch being the proud father of this project.
I bet this will be discussed a lot in the kind of academic program that Jessica (that name is disturbing from the other Phorum) attend(ed)s. It will have it's place as a groundbreaking project in media, but only until the next big thing comes along...
Well done Jessica and CREW, you are engaging and I will continue to see how you play this all out.
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west
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Post by west on Sept 12, 2006 19:14:39 GMT -5
The original video snippets are just the trigger, or the fuel so to speak for all the other content. Can you be sure this is an arg? Have you never heard of "Choose Your Own Adventure" series? The audience participation bit has been done before in a variety of forms. You admitted it wasn't a new art form, the freight train ran you over.
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Post by lgsleuth on Sept 12, 2006 19:17:58 GMT -5
I'm sure this isn't the place to pitch my CYOA series is it??
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Post by VanillaFlava on Sept 12, 2006 19:24:51 GMT -5
West, seriously, you'd probably get more sympathetic responses if you chilled out a little. Nevermind the Karma Of course, I have heard of CYOAs, and RPGs and MMOs etc. etc. You are still missing the point. Who says this is either an ARG, or an audience voting / branching narrative? Since you cited CYOA, now what is the difference to what we have here? Like TV a CYOA is a pre-written linear (although branching) narrative, which you also consume on your own. What we have here is something completely different. If only for the massive audience thrown in, the fact that you can interact with the characters and also intereact with the audience. And that in all likelyhood that it isn't completely pre-produced. Let it simmer for a while.
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west
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Post by west on Sept 12, 2006 19:28:01 GMT -5
No one knows if that was the intent regardless of what they say or you think.
I'd just like people to be rational and use only the known facts at hand.
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jayess
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Post by jayess on Sept 12, 2006 19:34:39 GMT -5
I don't know if it's necessarily a new art form, I guess it depends on how you define that. But I think everyone would agree that it's an extremely innovative way to tell a story using a medium that is itself, brand new (vlogging).
(Has Al Gore taken credit for Lonelygirl15 yet?)
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syrenia
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Post by syrenia on Sept 12, 2006 23:01:06 GMT -5
(Has Al Gore taken credit for Lonelygirl15 yet?) God only knows it's a matter of time.
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Post by VanillaFlava on Sept 13, 2006 10:39:27 GMT -5
(Has Al Gore taken credit for Lonelygirl15 yet?) God only knows it's a matter of time. Yeah ... it's kinda like an entertainment super-highway. With uhm ... rest stops along the way. And lots of people holding up hand-painted signs along the curb ... and the occasional wreck or two. Somebody mail him
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trash180
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Post by trash180 on Sept 13, 2006 12:05:17 GMT -5
They did mention in one of the article that there may be to different story lines that emerge and the audience will choose one to follow. I'm wondering how that's gonna work. That's pretty new to me....and lot's of people.
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Post by Tempestarii on Sept 15, 2006 20:33:28 GMT -5
Dickens published his stories in pamphlet format for the commoners to read. With each new installation they would gather in gin houses and go over every little detail, then it spread to the higher classes. Dickens apparently wandered about various areas and overheard where people thought the plot would or should go.
Not new imo, just new technology.
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Post by hyemew on Sept 18, 2006 16:17:39 GMT -5
Dickens published his stories in pamphlet format for the commoners to read. With each new installation they would gather in gin houses and go over every little detail, then it spread to the higher classes. Dickens apparently wandered about various areas and overheard where people thought the plot would or should go. Not new imo, just new technology. Wow thanks for the fascinating vignette! I love that kind of stuff, which is a reason I love Bree. I love how this proves we aren't alone in being obsessed like this, they've been doing it for centuries!
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Post by invitroblossoms on Sept 18, 2006 20:54:24 GMT -5
Dickens published his stories in pamphlet format for the commoners to read. With each new installation they would gather in gin houses and go over every little detail, then it spread to the higher classes. Dickens apparently wandered about various areas and overheard where people thought the plot would or should go. Not new imo, just new technology. That's so cool!
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Post by Tempestarii on Sept 19, 2006 17:19:07 GMT -5
My pleasure I live literally down the road from where the chap lived and named 'Bleak House' after. I am not a fan myself but have sat at his desk and whatnot. My own idea on all of this is the internet is now the 'lower classes' not as in inferior in anyway but I think Americans refer to it as the water cooler thing? A twenty four hour one of those. Producers hope the word of mouth will spread to 'higher classes' being sponsors, agents, tv companies...
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