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Post by Terryfic on Sept 6, 2006 13:51:49 GMT -5
I do like this idea. I’m not sure about the ceremony to try and solve the problem part, but I like the molestation being the source of her personality split. This would have occurred around 2 years ago when she first went to Daniel’s school. So that would have made her 13-14 which is a little closer to the childish age she acts now. Perhaps the ‘Bree’ personality is stuck at that age.
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Post by firenze11 on Sept 6, 2006 13:52:25 GMT -5
Actually, I just found out that someone I knew had a dissociative fugue. He snapped out of it in a totally different state, after taking on a completely different life and personality (like a new apartment, friends, etc). While I think that major dissociations are very rare, (we all mildly dissociate, think about when you've driven somewhere and can't really remember the drive at all, but you know you got to the destination safe and sound) dissociation usually occurs becuase of major stress events in one's life. It allows the person to remain functional, serving as a protective mechanism in the brain.
So if this whole fictionalized story resulted in another personality, in the form of Cassie, it is possible that "Bree" suffered a major psychologial (and/or physical) trauma.
Either way, I think this is fascinating in terms of sociology and pop culture. I don't think I'll be surprised by whatever brings this to an end. Eep, sorry this is long. I'll go back to lurking now.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 13:52:39 GMT -5
No, the ceremony isn't to solve the problem, but whatever the ceremony entails may have something to do with Cassie surfacing.
Fire: Don't lurk. You're smart. <3
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Post by Tempestarii on Sept 6, 2006 15:35:33 GMT -5
This is from the same article.
"A modern psychological perspective on Cassandra is presented by Eric Shanower in Age of Bronze: Sacrifice. In this version, Cassandra, as a child, is molested by a man pretending to be a god."
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 15:37:08 GMT -5
<3 Temp.
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Post by Tempestarii on Sept 6, 2006 15:46:40 GMT -5
Sorry I was a bit late, a slow day today
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 15:47:57 GMT -5
Your beauty makes up for it. <3
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Post by Tempestarii on Sept 6, 2006 17:11:43 GMT -5
"oh no - she's not - and I'm not on any religion's team, and i think the whole project is creepy and gross; but i'm just part of the work for hire posse that did some work for the project. i think there will be more disclosers with better info, (a lot of the people who worked on it feel really gross and dirty as i do) but my rent is too high to be too careless. Posted by: annabanana at August 23, 2006 2:50 PM" The comments regarding annabanna finding it gross are really interesting, I hope that turns out to be a good source just for my great desire to see this project have some horrible outcome. I am still not convinced Cassie is a split personality as that seems way beyond the scope of their almost non existent plot but I really do think the comments regarding her teacher were intended to add yet another darker layer by speaking of sexual matters for the first time ever in her blogs. In one swift move it is has gone the Pure-Bree-Child to a girl that now offers the image of her engaging in sensuality with an adult male. OT: Alissa, I think we should just elope and make our own vlog
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 17:24:18 GMT -5
I'll move there in 5 seconds. <3
On Topic: I like my theory and I'm sticking too it for now. xD
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Post by BaileysMom on Sept 6, 2006 20:18:13 GMT -5
I think this is a really legitimate plot line - I wonder if any of the videos show Bree-as-Cassie (i think someone else mentioned this too). Is there a difference in the way she dresses, speaks (tone, vocab), the topics she chooses, etc. Is she really different (purer) with Daniel? Does the music give anything away?
I will tell you that someone who has been abused may go overboard on the "purity" thing as a way of coping - i.e. if I am overly prudish no one will ever guess what happened AND I won't attract the bad kind of attention that makes those things happen. It might also explain the swim suit she wore to go swimming - an urgent need to cover up anything remotely adult about her body.
The sexual tension between Bree and Daniel may be what is bringing this to a head. The religious ceremony, if it requires anything that could be perceived as sexual, could cause her memories to come back - and yes, it is very common to repress the memories (I did) and for them to flood back at the time of your first romance/sexual experience.
This almost feels like the opposite of the whole "Catholic Priest/Altar Boy" thing - Science Teacher/young girl.
Interestingly - a new member just posted - his ID is ShonT2006 and he is a child psychologist. He may have some interesting input. I'll see if he is online.
But I have to tell you that while this angle did not occur to me initially - this makes A LOT OF SENSE to me intuitively. And if this is the line they take and it is a fake or some cheesy horror movie, I will be disgusted.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 20:29:21 GMT -5
I will be digusted too, but, there's no denying that the possibility is there. I'm sorry for what happened to you.
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Post by shont2006 on Sept 6, 2006 21:08:45 GMT -5
Baliey's Mom,
I got your message requesting my input. Although it is an interesting theory...I haven't seen anything except speculation that would indicate to me that she has Dissociative Identity Disorder. It is an extremely rare diagnosis, but hey...if this is fiction, then anything is possible. One thing I would question, is even though someone with this disorder may not realize it themselves, people that spend enough time with them *cough* Daniel *cough* would probably suspect something. This is one of the ways such a disorder is accurately assessed, by interviewing friends and family members, because often the person with the diagnosis may only be aware of the lost time, not necessarily the other personality.
Rather than speculate on a relatively extreme scenario, perhaps we can look at more basic clues in Bree's “on screen” behavior. She often plays "innocent to the camera". She often chooses childish ways of emphasizing points she wishes to make (i.e., the hand puppet). Even when she drops “the F-bomb”, it comes across as very unnatural, almost forced.
If the videos are real, her reaction could simply be due to an "icky" rumor that really hurt her, yet now she is sharing it with the world. Rumors in school have hurt many a girl, and it is very difficult for people to bring up such rumors, even when they happened many years ago. There is often a fear that the persecution will start again, once the rumor is re-introduced. Look at us…we are actually speculating whether she may in fact have been molested by the teacher. Doesn’t that seem to confirm her fears?
If fake, she plays very innocent to the camera, and we may just be reading something that isn't there. This is especially possible if we are looking at an adult actress that is playing a "younger role" As an actor, it is extremely difficult to get all your mannerisms to be age appropriate. An actress might try to act 16, but some of the stuff she does is much more 10-ish if you get my meaning.
Personally, I think she was just implying that there was a nasty rumor about her engaged in sexual relations with a teacher, the rumors were very hurtful, and she was communicating about it in a childish way; much like children use childish words for genitals, or engaging in sex.
P.S. I am a Child Therapist (Master’s Degree in Social Work, practicing in child therapy), not a Child Psychologist (usually PhD level). I just wanted to clear that up before people start referring to me as a doctor, lol.
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Post by BaileysMom on Sept 6, 2006 21:41:30 GMT -5
Shon - you don't have to actually *be* a doctor as long as you play one on tv.
And thanks for weighing in!
Steph
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Post by vespamonkey on Sept 6, 2006 21:48:49 GMT -5
What if Daniel is not a true friend and is simply waiting around for Cassie to show up?
that sounds awful and I hope th story does not go in a direction like that.
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 6, 2006 22:24:03 GMT -5
Shont: Thanks for your input. It is so hard to actually forumate a concrete theory with everything so crazy! Though I do like this one I've come up with 4 other alternatives in the span of one night. XD
I guess we must go in whichever direction we can!
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