Another Myspace victim

[mku77]

Breaking news from across the pond,

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6510535.stm

PC gone mad again,or what

[wixy15]

I wish I had a teacher that would put out like that.

[elixir]

wixy15 said:

I wish I had a teacher that would put out like that.

LOL!

I actually did have a teacher like this woman. And she actually still communicates with her students on a blog. She has also been in trouble for allowing students to go to her house etc. I know that there should be rules in place to protect kids, and to ensure that teachers don't abuse their positions but I must say that I remember my teacher as nothing more than kind and willing to put herself out (no, not "put out", wixy! ) for students who were in trouble or needed some extra support. Nothing innappropiate ever happened between her and her students as far as I know, but she really helped me to get through some difficult times in my life when I didn't have the support of my family, and my friends were too young to really help me out.

They need to arrange for better support for kids in schools, so that caring and kind-hearted teachers like this woman have more of an outlet to help students without overstepping the line.

Just my 2 cents anyway.

[Tempestarii]

Madness. I was going to stay with a teacher for two weeks when my parents went on holiday. This woman is married with kids and it would be like her children having friends over!
Hell I had a drink in a pub with one teacher, and another went clubbing all the time and gave people lifts home to be safer.

This country is going to the dogs. Many many teachers do not give a f*ck about the kids (my cousin's friends included) and one does and she is sacked. I am glad she will take it to tribunal.

[oweniscool]

Does college mean the same thing in England as in the US? You know, as in "university"? I'm finding it really hard to believe that a college teacher could get sacked over that. Aren't college teachers allowed to date their (presumably) adult pupils, if they wish? What she was doing wasn't even close to that in terms of "inappropriateness".

[Tempestarii]

College over here is 16 to 18 roughly, some schools have a 6th form which is college. University is after college.

Bearing in mind the age of consent for sexual relationships is 16 here. And one can move out of home at 16.

[mku77]

oweniscool said:

Does college mean the same thing in England as in the US? You know, as in "university"? I'm finding it really hard to believe that a college teacher could get sacked over that. Aren't college teachers allowed to date their (presumably) adult pupils, if they wish? What she was doing wasn't even close to that in terms of "inappropriateness".

Yep it tends to mean "after leaving High-school"so the students can be 17-25ish,
This is in Scotland where we have a different system from England....We dont have a sixth-formso Temp I think it you are right it sounds like a sixth-form class


For University guidelines,Ref see:

www.kent.ac.uk/equalityanddiversity/Teacher-student/index.htm

And that is one of our more radical Uni's

In essence she was sacked for posting it on myspace,

The ivory towers of higher learning dont like "that kind of internet thingy"

[elixir]

She was teaching at Hyde Clarendon College, which is a Sixth Form college. I didn't know what that was, so I consulted trusty old wiki which says "A sixth form college is an educational institution in the United Kingdom... where students aged 16 to 18 complete further education qualifications, such as A-levels. After completing college, students generally pass onto university, however some go straight to employment."

(You learn something new every day! )

[mku77]

Elixer, Thanks for your clarification,But it only applies to England, NI , Wales,Not the UK as a whole...(Scurries away to edit that goddam Wiki again)

EDITWiki edited

[oweniscool]

So from what I gather, these students were at least 16yrs old, at which age they could legally move out of their own homes and into this teacher's home if they so wanted! But they can't even spend the night or write her a lil myspace message every once in a while?
And they sack her because some parents complained? Sounds very fishy. Given the lack of details about said complaint, I have to wonder who these parents were, and whether this could be a pretext for something more sinister.
OIC is all about asking the tough questions.

[Tempestarii]

MKU, the uni of Kent is my local one

Elixir, that is the exactly what we do in my area *nods*

I went to a preparatory from the age of 2 till 4. From 4 till 12 I was at a private, from 12 to 16 it was an all girls school, I chose not to remain in the 6th form (School's college) and to go to another one which is an independent college not linked to a school.
Then after A Levels gained in the college one goes onto Uni for higher education.

And I STILL have to edit my posts because of spelling errors.

[mku77]

OH Temp, I always thought you were deep...

But I have Just gained 5000 respect points for/from you,

If I can use the phrase " Yowza"!!!,

And you think you know some people..........,

In 1986/7 I had a brief "coming together"with a certain Dr Sue Blackmore,Who briefly lectured in "Uni Of Kent" (So lets Google!!!)

It was in Glencoe,Kingshouse Hotel,after dinner,then she decides to have a goddam "whitey"from drinking Nukie Brown Ale,and smoking too much council Soap-bar,Clearly not good at Scottish "pishin'in",

If I remember correctly her Man was called "Rob"

Ah the memories!!

And you Know she has lost 3 Fingers SKIING!!!!

[mku77]

And just when you thought it was safe to let your teen-daughter be alone,for a night with a myspace account>>>>>>>

"They urinated in the wardrobes, pulled my clothes out of the wardrobes and stubbed cigarettes out on them. The beds are burnt. There's food and messages all over the walls."

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6553763.stm


Another One to the list!!!!!

[elixir]

A lot of people are getting into trouble these days with sites like YouTube and MySpace. I guess the anonymity of the internet is breaking down a little bit.

Here in Australia, a couple of times YouTube has been used to identify mainly young (stupid) criminals (why would you film yourself committing a crime?! I guess they think if DanielBeast does it, it's okay. Lol!).

There was a video in the news here recently. It keeps getting posted on YouTube despite all the controversy. The reason it's so controversial is because it basically exalts a notorious gang rapist, as well as shows gang violence, and they are then stupid enough to link it to a high school. This then prompted police to investigate the video to see if any of the people featured in it were current students of the school, and if they were identified they could face criminal charges. This was not the only video that was in hot water. There were also several hate videos directed at the Australian public, one was a rap song that had lyrics which included lines like, "You'll witness war, you'll see/Scattered all over the beach, your family/Just like that war in Gallipoli.” I won't even get into how that offended the Australian public.

I’ll give the links to the videos in case anyone is interested, just be warned that the language is explicit, and some of the images may offend you. But it just goes to show what kind of material gets on YouTube, and stays on YouTube.

The first one is the one that links the high school. It’s a slideshow, and shows the gang rapist posing with a gun, many banned weapons and violence.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ErCLRvkGNs&mode=related&search=

The second one is the hate song. I don’t know if it is actually classed as criminal, but it was in the news a lot too. It has lots of “anti-Aussie” images, and the lyrics are explicit.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDztjPzvSM

It just amazes me that these people would post this kind of stuff with their pictures on the internet for all to see. There are plenty of these kind of videos on YouTube with young people showing themselves off, committing crimes etc. It’s ridiculous! It is pure stupidity.

Anyway, as a side note, I found this channel:

www.youtube.com/profile?user=AUSshoplifter

Basically it’s about a guy who is a professional shoplifter. At first I had a fit thinking he was even more stupid than the above youths. But in a comment he says, “we do it [for] the benefit of the retailers. We show them how it's done and then teach them how to prevent it.” Hmmm.... Wonder if he’s telling the truth. I don’t know how to respond. Even if it’s for "the benefit of the retailers” he is showing people how to shoplift. Geeez.... Most of the Aussies on YouTube that I’ve seen seem to be criminals in some way! Argh! Or just plain stupid!

[robtomorrow]

This reminds me of the Letourneau affair that happened here in Seattle, where Mary Letourneau a 34 year old elementary school teacher had an affair with a 13 year old student, Vili Fualaau, she had two children by him, went to jail for several years for it, his mother sued the state for not protecting her son, and won a couple million dollars, even though at first she said she didn't see anything wrong with it.
But there is a happy ending Mary and Villi are now happily married.

www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/marykay_letourneau/1.html