buckwheat
Anchor Cove Citizen of Note
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Post by buckwheat on Mar 13, 2007 12:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by Terryfic on Mar 13, 2007 14:48:40 GMT -5
It seems unlikely, but I wonder if suits like this will force legislators to change copyright law to better reflect the emerging web 2.0 culture. Completely stolen clips are hard to argue for (although whether they actually hurt anyone finically is doubtful), but what about mash ups? I heard that recently a congressman made a reference to Girl Talk and how copyright law is doing more to prevent new art then it is to protect the artists.
I also wonder if YouTube won’t just up and move to the Netherlands or somewhere else that has much laxer copyright laws.
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Post by lesbrent on Mar 13, 2007 15:39:15 GMT -5
I don't understand how short "stolen" clips can be damaging to a large company like Viacom.
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Post by Terryfic on Mar 13, 2007 15:42:27 GMT -5
I think it is less about lost Viacom revenue, but more about Google\YouTube making money off Viacom's products and then not paying Viacom. The question is, is YouTube responsible for what its users upload? I wouldn’t think so and I believe YouTube could be considered a common carrier and thus would not be legally responsible for transmitting illegal material. Like how UPS isn’t responsible if I ship a CD with pirated music or how an ISP isn’t responsible when I download the latest episode of House. Oh dear, the lawsuits are just pouring in now |
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Post by hyemew on Mar 13, 2007 17:33:16 GMT -5
Umm using Prom night as the vehicle?
I think Prom is the most over-rated moment of someone's (teenage at the very least) life.
Most people don't want to remember prom, and those who do probably can't because of other reasons.
I don't see that as the best setting to begin with.
I also don't like the thought of making a video for the sake of being the next lonelygirl15. I still kind of think that a conversion of multiple events and factors created the amazing success that lonelygirl had early on, and I really don't see that happening again. As I've said before, "lonelygirl15" is known to enough people now that if they saw something like it they'd be more likely to write it off as a copycat rather than getting engaged.
Also it seems like this isn't going to be a "lonelygirl" series at all but instead a regular mystery mini-series cut up in 90 second pieces. That's not what was great about lonelygirl. That's more like what lonelygirl is now, which I believe to be rather tedious (who wants to keep on tuning in every couple of days for what essentially is watching one tv episode which they could do in a half hour?) What lonelygirl is to me, and the greatness of the mystery surrounding her (besides the obvious who is she really- which Prom Queen of course will never have) is the subtle underlying mysteries which left everyone wondering and wanting to tune in for me. It wasn't a linear mystery story, but instead something in which you had to look very closely to discern the deeper mystery. Nowadays lonelygirl, along with what Prom Queen appears to be like, is just as I said, a mystery mini-series cut up into a bunch of little pieces you have to keep checking back to see.
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Post by VanillaFlava on Mar 13, 2007 18:08:47 GMT -5
I don't understand how short "stolen" clips can be damaging to a large company like Viacom. Very simple. Those short stolen clips make up the majority of YouTube's inventory I wager, and also create the most page impressions overall, sorry Renetto. These page impressions are monetised quite nicely by Google AdWords and other means of which Viacom sees zilch. I am positive that before they took this to court, Viacom first tried to negotiate a rev sare, when that didn't work tried them to remove inventory (a purely rethorical excercise) and then took that to court based on YT's non-compliance to point two. More interstingly, Viacom in the same breath signed with the Kaza/Skype founders Joost platform for video delivery, which is all about legal peer to peer media delivery. I don't think it was a question of whether this would happen, only when. So, there. Still, Chad & Steve are still laughing all the way to the bank  Joost, btw is rather cool. Go Denmark (or should I say Estonia?) for bringing us three of the coolest technologies (with a business model) in the modern Internet. www.joost.com/ (you might still know this by the Venice project code name, I know some of the guys working on it, it is quite sweet in my somewhat biased opinion) |
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Post by Tempestarii on Mar 14, 2007 13:24:51 GMT -5
I signed up for the beta there a week or so ago. Joost that is. The character recognition doolally would not finish it  Aha! I just signed up. |
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