Smashing
Very Very Sr. Cove Sleuther
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Post by Smashing on Feb 27, 2007 19:32:22 GMT -5
One look at the subject line should remind you what it was that brought us together on this board in the first place. The Mystery.
That's what we all have in common, right? It's what made Alissa choose those titles. It's what got me excited. That's what made us the Children of Anchor Cove, before we were Rancor Cove.
Seems to me what we need is a new mystery. It has to be a mystery that we know there is an answer to. Some ARG-type things have been suggested. Maybe that's it, but I think it may have to be a real life mystery to be as satisfying.
We identified the NoHos and Nikki Bower, we've ruled real vs. fake on some other YouTube videos. But I keep thinking, or at least wishing there's got to be another big mystery out there that we can use our collective sleuthing abilities on.
Maybe it's a tall order, but it would be a lot of fun, and inject new life into the cove at the same time.
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Post by milowent on Feb 27, 2007 20:02:07 GMT -5
i'm right there with you smashing. good points.
in terms of lonelygirl15, the only real mystery i see right now is who was behind Cassieiswatching. I frankly believe it was someone connected to the creators, like Nikki Bower. Nikki (Alli D.) denied any connection after I raised that suspicion. I can't imagine any reason for the CiW creator to not come clean, unless they are embarrased by what happened to that project.
i am sure there are other mysteries out there conducive to sleuthing by internet-based researchers. Not just internet mysteries.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 27, 2007 21:32:03 GMT -5
I've got a little mystery for you:
There seems to be a lot of innuendo that YouTube actually paid for certain vloggers to travel to SF for the AsOne mini-convention, some coming from as far away as Australia and Great Britain. DanielBeast and Jonas made it all the way from their hideaway in the Cascades.
Who's really footing the bill? Do you believe YT is behind this? No one seems to want to give straight answers. TheHill88 is asking for donations to help her out in America on her fan site. Several others deny receiving any sponsorship. One gal even complained that she had to pay her own way there. What to believe?
These gatherings are spreading... first LA, then SF, then London, and next July 7 NYC.
YouTube gets lots of exposure so they have a vested interest in making these tube-ins happen, yes?
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Post by hyemew on Feb 27, 2007 22:14:01 GMT -5
I think Hill coming all the way from down under was a little much...
I mean what's the cost for that, a couple thou?? For a one day bash?! It just seemed extreme when I heard it.
I was going to say but then again why would youtube spend so much money on her either- until I remember they got over a billion to kick around so there you go.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 27, 2007 22:35:30 GMT -5
This belongs equally in my "what if" thread, but what if YouTube is somehow bankrolling these people who create popular content as a smart business strategy? As in, make stars out of the ones who've shown the potential to draw the most viewers. Put them in high-visibility events. Get them interviewed on mainstream, show their faces in magazines flying the YouTube flag.
If sweat equity were accorded, the LG15 cast and crew should've had a handsome chunk of change when the Google-bucks started rolling in. It's the least YouTube can do to fanfare its bigger players at gatherings and such, make 'em feel important signing autographs in their spiffy YTee-shirts.
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Post by wixy15 on Feb 28, 2007 13:23:32 GMT -5
How about Youtube is investing all this money, making them popular and perhaps even signing them to a contract? In the contract it has a clause for X amount of years that a % of any earnings outside of the YT community is payable to YT. Is it becoming a talent agency and an agent to the 'stars' at the same time??!?! This would be pretty damn extreme...!
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Post by lesbrent on Feb 28, 2007 15:09:21 GMT -5
I don't believe for a minute that the handful of the most popular bloggers paid for their own trips. I want to know - why is paperlilies staying in an apartment in CA somewhere? What is she doing over here and how can she afford it?
I watched most of their (most popular bloggers) "as one" tributes and they all seem mesmorized by Renetto and I find most of them are portraying this all to be much more than what it really is.....it's hard to explain what I mean here. It's like a collection of "15 minutes of fame" exploding. These people are video bloggers - they aren't going to change the world. Does anyone KWIM?
Edited to add - it's like they all sat around a big peacepipe and talked about how their vlogging will change the world and stroking each other.
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Post by milowent on Feb 28, 2007 17:26:28 GMT -5
another mystery - who is behind "Girl Talk". i talked about this a few months ago, i still believe its clearly a production. alissabrooke.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=otherseries&action=display&thread=1167320267---- what i find most amusing about the youtube gathering is that in a real way these people ARE my "stars". little stars, perhaps, but i saw renetto somewhere i'd say to myself, WTF? - that's renetto! and i'm a loser! i also believe that youtube paid for some of those vloggers to travel to san fran, including renetto, thehill88, and damien estrich (yourtube news). is anyone really popular really denying it? you tube has money to burn now on experiments like this. thehill88 is traveling america beyond just san fran, so youtube is probably not footing the bill for that (including her appearance today on the nohosgirls on livevideo.com) |
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Post by lesbrent on Feb 28, 2007 17:58:32 GMT -5
Also, who is behind Bikini News and The Dating Show on livevideo? Is Iron Sink somehow involved in those? Who owns livevideo, do we know that?
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Post by wixy15 on Feb 28, 2007 18:48:05 GMT -5
Livevideo is identical to YT, not very imaginitive...
I would have a guess that those that got ignored on YT moved to LV to get 'famous'
Alexandria seems to be rubbish, she might be a decent actress though, she needs a decent loveable character. Is there a storyline or anything at the minute?
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Post by stantheman on Feb 28, 2007 21:59:22 GMT -5
... thehill88 is traveling america beyond just san fran, so youtube is probably not footing the bill for that (including her appearance today on the nohosgirls on livevideo.com) Unless they did that to throw suspicion of their involvement off. What better way to gain plausible deniability? In my opinion the hill88 is bankable because of her youth, moxie and tubegenic looks. She's Oz's biggest Tube star now that Emmalina is no longer in the spotlight. She may be shopping her game around at the moment, perhaps to up the ante. |
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Post by milowent on Feb 28, 2007 23:23:19 GMT -5
stan - but why deny that they paid them? what's the harm?
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Post by stantheman on Mar 1, 2007 3:19:57 GMT -5
I'm guessing that YouTube has no desire to admit they underwrote Hill's and Paperlillies' expenses. Just think of all the jealousy and resentment that would ensue if they did.
By sending these global "stars" to the gatherings YouTube benefits from the enhanced media exposure assured by their larger-than-life presence.
theHill88 may not be much stateside, but she's all the rage in Australia, just as Paperlillies is quite the bomb in the UK (alongside Geriatric and Katers).
Again, it does YouTube no good if it looks like they're manipulating their high-profile vloggers' visibility on the world stage. Too many others would say "me too!" and that would spell disaster!
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Post by wixy15 on Mar 1, 2007 4:38:26 GMT -5
Might be different if other users paid a subscroption that was used to enable the YTS (youtube stars & half witty comedy) to travel the world but other users don't pay to use the site, so other than resentment there isn't much to lose. Perhaps YT would admit it but it's the individuals who don't want it to be confirmed?
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