Like a Virgin [06.13.07]

[curiousgeorge]

School Teacher Dominatrix World:
lonelygirl15.com/?p=272&play=1

YT:
Not up yet. But will be here I guess:
www.youtube.com/profile?user=soccerstar4ever

Summary:
Sorry Jonas, but your email was just too much . . . I had to make this video. Taylor Faction: THE RESISTANCE

Credits:
"Strange Feeling in the Night" by Lucy
myspace.com/lucysong

The e-mail from Joan referenced in the vid:
i'm sure you've seen sarah's latest v-blog. just between you and I, what's your sister's problem? i mean, there was no other point of doing that other than to hurt me. right? this whole thing with bree sucks. and sarah seems to be getting some freaky pleasure out of making fun of me right now. i'm pissed! who the hell wouldn't be? the way sarah slams me and what I'm going through is totally callous. oh, sorry, let me define "callous" for anyone who might be reading this (like sarah) who's command of the english language seems to be limited to "do you wanna?". "callous" can mean two different things - both are pretty good synonyms for "sarah".
1. having calluses; toughened: like callous skin on the elbow.
(check you elbows, taylor, it may run in the family)
or
2. emotionally hardened; unfeeling
(again, be careful, taylor, it may be genetic)

and what's up with her telling everyone bree was my first time? what's your sister's problem? i think sarah's nutz. i think she has some serious mental health issues that she's never dealt with and this is how she cops her bad feelings about herselfff.

i would really appreciate it if from now one would you use please a little sensinavity when sharing information about me, daniel, bree and even your sister. it seems like your sister won't ever know any better, so I 'm sending this to you, hoping you'll learn from her mistake. none of us should even have to deal with this crap. we should all be concentrating on finding Bree and dealing with the order. you incorrectly thinking that you can triangulate cell phone towers in the middle of the woods isn’t helping. i don’t appreciate wild goose chases.

oh, pne last thing: DO NOT POST THIS! this is for your eyes only. i don't want to make this any bigger than it already is.

thanks,

J

CG Adds:
Proving Sarah Whacked! I liked the silly animations and I thought it was fairly clever and witty. MUCH better.

[hyemew]

I appreciate Jonas's snide way of pointing out the definition of the word callous since Sarah's command of English is not that great, and yet he makes a grammatical error while doing it ("who's should have been whose"). Tool

And Bree was his first time? I still am utterly astounded that they actually had Bree have sex. Well, not in my mind at least. I think I'll just go back to thinking about Old Bree only and totally block out any of the idiotic madness that would unfold less than a year later.
If you told any of us hunters last August that in less than a year the show would be about Bree's first time, I think we would have laughed at you or shot you, or probably both. This is ridiculous.

(Now that I'm watching the show, I notice Taylor makes a grammatical error saying "just between you and I".
And why was the e-mail between just them to be forwarded to no one for her eyes only and yet it was forwarded by him to two others?

I don't even understand all this drama. Who got this e-mail? Is this basically a phorum-only thing? Because clearly the vast majority of fans didn't get the e-mail so this drama is probably lost on them as it is on me. I could care less.

[elixir]

hyemew said:

If you told any of us hunters last August that in less than a year the show would be about Bree's first time, I think we would have laughed at you or shot you, or probably both. This is ridiculous.

I'm still hopeful that the Bree Clone storyline comes into play soon...

hyemew said:

And why was the e-mail between just them to be forwarded to no one for her eyes only and yet it was forwarded by him to two others?

Probably just another Proving Logic Wrong.


But aside from that, I did quite enjoy this episode. Taylor's outfit was a bit unnecessary, but hey... it'll get hawtt views on YT. Taylor is probably the closest thing we have to Old Bree (which is what they want us to think, I am sure). If this is true, maybe Sarah represents Future Bree... hehehe...

Overall, I did like this episode. The animation was cute, paying Jonas out was funny, and we got a little bit of insight into the characters. I can't believe the direction this show has taken though, maybe they are purposely making it more immature so that the older fans cling to Kate Modern. I dunno... I'm tired... going to bed to have nightmares about School Teacher Dominatrix Taylor....

[milowent]

if bree and jonas really did have sex, they kinda made it a throwaway thing. they could have stretched the suspense of them getting closing over a long period of time.

i still will firmly believe bree did not "do" jonas until i hear otherwise from her.

jonas really earned his "joanus" nickname with that email.

did i miss something? why is this vid titled "like a virgin"?

[jayhenry]

[hyemew]

Jay, I read that line as Jonas being proud of his conquest, and Sarah running around trying to ruin it telling everyone it was his "first time". This would mean he was a virgin before Bree as well and that would make him less of a man in the eyes of other similarly sex-obsessed friends. If Jonas was mad that Sarah was telling people they had sex when they didn't, he would be more blunt about it, not using the vagueries of "how could you tell people this was my first time?!" No, that implies that he wants everyone to think that it indeed WASN'T his first time and that they did have sex. I am quite sure that's what the writers' intentions are with this one.

[Alissa Brooke]

OK this one is just stupid. I finally didn't like one. Go me!

[slainte]

ick

[curiousgeorge]

milowent said:

did i miss something? why is this vid titled "like a virgin"?

I think it will turn out that ALL the characters are indeed still virgins... Well maybe not Lucy and most of the Orderites, but I bet those guys in the elevator are

[hyemew]

By the way, we might not have to worry too much about Bree's virginity.
If an absurdly absurd sounding tip off from a somewhat knowing of someone in the know comes true, than the sex Bree is actually a Bree clone. Yes, I'm serious about this, a Bree clone.

All I can say is I hope so, despite the complete scientific impossibility of it (unless she has a twin!), but I refuse to believe the "I mostly spend 24 hours a day trying to avoid other peoples' spit" girl of a few months ago is now sleeping around on the third kiss.

[robtomorrow]

I am still leaning toward agreeing with CG and Milo, even though it has gone beyond hinting that they had sex to strongly implying that they did, I am still expecting at some point that Jonas or Bree will come out with a denial.

But whether or not they had actual canon sex, the C's have defiantly played their "sex" card, and they can't unplay it or take it back and replay it later. Which makes me wonder what they are going to do for an encore.

Although there was an innocence to Bree in the early videos, I disagree that there ever was a time when sex wasn't a part of the series, even if it was for it's absence. I started watching the series about the same time as most people here , last summer, about the time of "Boy Problems" and my memory is that the speculation on YT at the time often involved sex, it other words the question was why Daniel and Bree didn't have it, did they or when would they.

[robtomorrow]

I guess I'm among the minority here, in not being upset about the fact that sex has finally come into play, in fact I kind of like it.

I am much more upset about the fact that the story in general has been so meandering and has become so frustratingly senseless.

But I keep watching anyway. *shrugs*

[milowent]

robtomorrow said:

I guess I'm among the minority here, in not being upset about the fact that sex has finally come into play, in fact I kind of like it.

I am much more upset about the fact that the story in general has been so meandering and has become so frustratingly senseless.

But I keep watching anyway. *shrugs*

i don't have any rule against sex coming into the mix, i'm just not enthused about how they did it. keeping things at the Tom Sawyer-Becky Thatcher stage can't last forever, but before they go all Sam-and-Diane Cheers-style to the bedroom, you can take your time.

and my interest in raised by hymew's clone post. oh, i hope it was a bree clone. strangely i do.

[hyemew]

I agree. While I would like to think the Bree character would remain innocent forever, obviously that isn't realistic. Same thing with the (wait for it...) Rory Gilmore example. While she started out as extremely innocent and shy about boys, running away when she got her first kiss and everything, she did eventually have sex on the show. However it was at the end of the fourth season, after she had gone through at least two long(ish)-term relationships (well relationships which carried us from the beginning of the series to then) and ended up being with the guy who gave her her very first kiss at the beginning.
While I don't really like the way it panned out on the show, it was handled maturely and seriously, and the fact her old boyfriend was married at the time also came into play as a major part of the discussion over why what she did, based on the timing she chose to do it, just wasn't right.

In this case, we went from Bree who has still NEVER had an actual "boyfriend" (no matter what her sometimes closeness with Daniel or Jonas might be construed as) or real relationship, and based on the way she disappeared after it seems our Bree's first time was nothing but a one night stand. Is this what we invisioned or Bree or how a girl of her sense would approach such a major life event?
Of course not. And it's this constant inconsistency which has dogged the characters since a long time ago which really angers me about it. Some phorumites have been combating me with the simplistic "she's brainwashed, this is HoO Bree not real Bree acting" arguement, however I'm just disturbed by that. If this was really all part of the HoO's plan and Bree was not acting on her own... free will... (because most of us can agree this is not something regular Bree would have done) then I am even more disturbed because this means Bree was made to do something as serious as sex when not in her right mind. You know... kind of like rape? Under this scenario, if Bree ever gets brought back to her senses and realizes she had sex, then this means the Bree character not only has seen her father murdered in front of her eyes but now she has the added pain of being a rape victim.

Good Lord, I think I've finally let go of the last strands of even pretending the Bree character could possibly be real. Of course I've known she's fake for a long time, but I've cared about her and her well-being as you would a real character since I feel attached going back to the very beginning and all the fun we had at(?) her expense. At this point if she was a real person she would be so royally and permanently screwed up I don't even think Freud could help her. I think in caring about the character I have to let the notion of her as someone we knew and enjoyed go all together, since I'd much rather her not exist at all than continue to imagine her like one who is who would be so incredibly screwed up thanks to all she's been put through. Arghh.

[curiousgeorge]

Hmmm. Land of a Thousand Brees. (Old School for Slainte , FLW and the way funky Trash180).

Now that we're in a groove baby. Do tell Hye...