Jennifer
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 5, 2007 18:15:46 GMT -5
I think Noho girls et al is more a mixture of stories. There are some short ones like Blue's dog, over in two or three eps while longer threads like the sex tape or Brady's feud with Blue rumble on over the whole series as we know it so far. In this respect, it mirrors life, which is my interpretation of the natural affinity people have with a show like that.
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Post by Jennifer on Nov 11, 2006 9:46:32 GMT -5
The reason I like NoHO girls is that it is more related to real life. LG15 and the Sam thing are just too far fetched for me.
If fantasy entertainment is your thing then go for it, but the most popular programming for the masses is stuff based on real life drama. I could quote Coronation Street and Eastenders in the UK as soaps which get the biggest viewing figures. No doubt the US has equivalents; friends etc.
LG15 seemed to get all her publicity from being a girl messing around in her bedroom, proving science wrong, and fantasising with her soft toys. People can relate to that kind of thing more easily. Now she is chasing round the country sleeping in motels escaping from a cult, doubts begin to creep in.
I guess successful stories need both kinds of action to keep up interest, but everyone can empathise with the bedroom and living room stuff much better because that is where they relate to themselves.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 26, 2007 19:34:30 GMT -5
Gosh, that was quick. I never got a chance to vote. Well done to all the winners though, and in fact anyone who got nominated.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 19:55:48 GMT -5
Hey, thx flywright I'll add Soup of the Day. More Scott Zakarin direction, but the guy is a master of the New Media.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 18:41:18 GMT -5
Hardly worth nominating for this as Jess Rose will win hands down in a sea of LG15 fans, but I'm going to stick in Mary Newman as Cara Brimley of Noho girls. You can look at any of her stuff and take your pick as to what video, it's all good.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 18:21:52 GMT -5
Scott Zakarin for Soup of the Day. Also for Noho Girls et al.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 18:35:51 GMT -5
Digital Persona www.livevideo.com/HiHoGirlsGreat camera angles, atmosphere, lighting, and choice of shots. And if one embraces the modern definition of cinematography to include special effects, and video editing, this short movie has it all. Nominally by "Hannah" of Hiho girls, the longer term fans seem to agree the creative input most likely comes from Scott Zakarin and his team.
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 20:03:17 GMT -5
Someone's got a 1-track mind... that's the fifth NoHo nominee from you in a row! Heehee, well someone has to fly the flag It's somewhat academic as with the army of LG15 fans here, the voting will be more fixed than the real life award thingies. Still, there needs to be some competition to be kicked into touch!
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Post by Jennifer on Feb 14, 2007 18:46:39 GMT -5
www.livevideo.com/nohogirlsEddie finally connects with Cara Great acting from Mary and Adam, plus Eddie finally get his just rewards. Very funny video.
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Post by Jennifer on Nov 20, 2006 19:30:22 GMT -5
OK, I'm not a lurker but I have something to add.
I have done admin at message boards, some 10 times the size of this one. And it is always an argument about if we should purge the members list to include only the active people. I've always argued against that, and I'm glad to see it is not done here.
Like in a normal conversation in a bar, there are thsoe who like to talk and others who prefer to listen, at least for the most part. The internet is no different and there's no reason why we shouldn't respect that.
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 16, 2007 19:15:25 GMT -5
If he'd done anything else you'd have to say he was acting out of character!
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 5, 2007 13:26:18 GMT -5
Yes, I have noticed the strategy on YT is quite different to LV. In fact it's not worth watching YT any more although most of the fans there haven't really cottoned onto to the change to LV, which is not a bad thing in some respects, as I can't say I miss all the racism and the ignorant comments. One of the theories I've had from the start is that this production could indeed contain some reality. People started off thinking it was real, then most realise it was staged, but things may yet go full circle, and you will have the last laugh. For example, they were at a party somewhere which was probably real. Who is to say they didn't go for a good time and did a quick bit of filming on the side. Many of the cast seem to be in a group of friends and who can say Tara doesn't actually live with Jamie, although it's unlikely. All the cast live in LA and there would be nothing to stop you having a fly on the wall among a group of aspiring young actors who did actually live together. They would simply film the odd vid in their spare time between gigs, auditions, and part time jobs. Their interaction would be partly real and partly staged to bring in other groups or plot threads. It would certainly be a way for them to achieve some recognition and also some cash if the popularity and ad revenues kick in correctly. Who knows, we may even be seeing some of this type of interaction at the moment. My guess is you are on a limited budget to get the thing rolling and therefore it would make sense to use people's own apartments for shoots. So those cries of "fake, fake" on You Tube may actually be at least partially wrong. I don't think most people there have thought round the possible production scenarios in enough detail. So, part of the fascination for me is putting together the clues in the series as to what is real or not. Now I know the deal on LV, I'll will save such observations for here or YT, bur rest assured my research and thinking is my own
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 5, 2007 3:32:19 GMT -5
In truth, Milowent has got it 100% right. Honestly there was no malice intended. In fact, as I remember, I was defending the series against a post which was ignorant in that it said that material should be selected better, when in fact due to the commendable rate of presentation, the punters should be grateful for the action they get in so short a time. I have a background in productions, but I actually work in HR and PR now. We have a small company but if stuff needs finding, I'm the one who does internet research. Hence my knowledge of that field. The "Iron Sink" info is public knowledge. It's all over the internet if you know where to look: Eg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Zakarin plus Scott and Paul's myspace, links therefrom, and numerous other sources give clues, inc Mary Newman's webpage too as alluded to by Milo. I have had a few private exchanges with Scott, but he doesn't give anything away to be honest, I wouldn't expect him to and if he did, I wouldn't use it. I spent a lot of time in Nov and Dec doing my own research and I learned loads. So I think you have to give me a bit more credit than saying I learned it here or from Scott. In the spirit of this board I put in my own time, finding my own things out. It may sound amazing but it's true So, no hard feelings I hope. I do appreciate your input Paul, and understand your viewpoint, but I think your position on LV or YT needs same tacit clarification somewhere, to avoid misunderstandings. Internet text is a strange medium to operate in without guidance. Some of us openly lie about Father Christmas and some of us don't. I'm not in the former school of thought, but then again I can play along and enjoy it too, as I hope I've demonstrated.
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 4, 2007 20:49:57 GMT -5
Aha, so Mr "Mimosa" was actually doing some production work as well as acting.
I tend to do both kinds of comments. Comments on the production and shouts at the actors in character, but I have noticed that the the first kind of comment is not appreciated on Live Video.
It is censorship in a way, and I don't think it would affect the comments of the people who are actually into the plot as they tend to make them anyway. (As proved at You Tube)
The comments by the "actors," Cara, Leah etc are, to me, obviously made by the production team. They tend to contain the same spelling errors and the same posting style. The times of posting are very much linked to when the videos were uploaded and Cara will post soon after Leah etc. Given that the videos are filmed well in advance it's unlikely the actual cast will be around at the exact time of posting to make the comments.
Also I found that the actor "comments" were deliberately inciting controversy or continually leading the plot, which in itself would be unusual if the comments were genuine. It's non the less all good fun though, and doesn't stop me from watching though I wonder how transparent the comments are to others.
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Post by Jennifer on Jan 4, 2007 17:22:30 GMT -5
So it's official. On Live Video, the production team remove any comments on the vids pertaining to reality. Ie Any comments referring to Iron Sink, production matters, cast member names (eg Mary Newman), or other such issues.
As far as I know, this policy is not pursued on You Tube where a greater freedom of speech is allowed. So the question is, how right is this censorship, and how far is it justified?
One could argue that If the vids were "real," then their posters would let the reality speak for itself and not have the need to censor any comments. By thus censoring they are defeating their own pretense at reality.
On the other hand, some people appear hooked by the story line and their comments may be lost if they are "brought up to date." It has to be said that most people are in the know though, and these people (including myself) will still shout out at the characters and offer them advice in the true spirit of the production. Much the same way as we would shout out at a pantomime or fairy story play. We know it is a play, but we can still enjoy it and indeed be involved.
Can you see both sides, and how would you play it if you were in the position of Iron Sink, producing the series?
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