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Post by hyemew on Aug 5, 2007 19:24:19 GMT -5
There'll probably be a Halloween episode, a Christmas theme episode and of course one or two of the obligatory "very special episodes" wher one of them fights a substance abuse problem or struggles with some other "flavor of the month" socio-political issue. Don't forget "the Harlem Globetrotters visit TAAG Island". I'm surprised that no one else but elixer found Miles's message self-serving in that he once again gives no credit to Mesh whatsoever and makes it appear like he-Miles- wrote everything.
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Post by robtomorrow on Aug 5, 2007 19:55:09 GMT -5
Talk about patting yourself on the back. Undeservedly so, too! The "interactivity" that he spoke of? I saw none of it. Unless he means Marla sitting on a street and watching Yousef run by...or Voyboy being in a video? Puh-lease. The "clues" that we "had to figure out" were bogus and watching LG15 on my computer is no contact sport. Good going, Miles. You're NOT one of us, otherwise you'd know everything I just said. Please, don't shit all over KM too. I agree I don't get the impression that Miles really understands what interactivity means, he seems to think giving the fans the illusion that they are involved in the story is interactivity, whereas interactivity to the rest of us means that the viewers/participants actually effect the course of the story.
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Post by flwright on Aug 5, 2007 21:10:17 GMT -5
By the way could one of you guys/girls with all "inside info" let me know who the hell Stan Hardy is? And is FLWright a psuedonym for some other insider. (I think I would be bummed about that because I had spoken with him via PM in a kind of collegial way and it would seem a little duplicitous if that is the case. Stan Hardy is the name I gave Bree's dad in the Our Town thread. I did this long before the 3 Breesketeers let Nikki Bower and the Phorum Phans name him Drew Avery. FLWright an insider? How can anyone watch my YouTube videos and come to any other conclusion? You flatter me sir, thank you! The collegiality is real, I hope you didn't take my little dig in the Death Becomes Her thread the wrong way. I will correct it instantly if offense was taken. See my intro for the real scoop. FLWright (Tom)
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Post by jayhenry on Aug 5, 2007 22:51:09 GMT -5
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Post by hyemew on Aug 5, 2007 22:53:26 GMT -5
ok lets agree to delete what I said and delete what you said because now I feel hated and just want that to go away and no one to ever see it
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Post by brokenkid on Aug 6, 2007 13:39:11 GMT -5
I don't see Miles's post as anything other than a sincere expression of how he's feeling and a desire to communicate it. I see no ulterior motives behind his post and the cynicism in this thread, for once, doesn't seem warranted at all. I agree with Jay... The Cove has always been a rather cynical bunch. Of course, it's possible Bree was killed because it's better press. But it's also more final for the fans (and eliminates all the "bring Bree back now or I'll stop watching" posts that would surely come) and allows the story to move on without her. I don't think Miles is intending this as a slight on Mesh or Greg. Rather, he's speaking for his role in it. He wasn't there with the cast and crew during the finale in California. He's been heavily involved with KM, and I suspect he's missed lonelygirl15. He's expressing his feelings about what happened in the story and also encouraging fans with the story yet to come. It is a story, after all. Perhaps they've planned Bree's death for a long time. Perhaps it's vital to the rest of the story. I hope most of the fans will wait and see...
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Post by matsie on Aug 6, 2007 14:15:10 GMT -5
It is a story, after all. Perhaps they've planned Bree's death for a long time. Perhaps it's vital to the rest of the story. I hope most of the fans will wait and see... If there is only one thing you know about the LG15 team is that planning ahead is not part of it...
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Post by lola on Aug 6, 2007 14:42:38 GMT -5
I think he's been reading Shonda Rhime's "Grey's Anatomy" "Grey Matter" blog. I seem to remember a post written in a very similar style when they killed off Denny on that show.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 6, 2007 17:27:03 GMT -5
Warning: Monkey Fairness and Truth in Posting Review I don't see Miles's post as anything other than a sincere expression of how he's feeling and a desire to communicate it. I see no ulterior motives behind his post and the cynicism in this thread, for once, doesn't seem warranted at all. I agree with Jay... The Cove has always been a rather cynical bunch. Please note that Jay emphasized "For Once". Ahem... Yes, we are cynical a lot of the time and for very good reason BK. Miles has the art of spin down pat and he is deservedly not popular here. . Of course, it's possible Bree was killed because it's better press. But it's also more final for the fans (and eliminates all the "bring Bree back now or I'll stop watching" posts that would surely come) and allows the story to move on without her. I do agree with you on this part. Although my "off with her head" mantra was a an attempt at farce to deflect sadness, I think this was a sound "business" decision. One of the few they have made (see above comment on deserved cynicism). It was, IMHO, the best choice for the franchise. For the fans, it pretty much was horrid though. Such is the entertainment biz.... As for his sincerity about the character or attempts to push aside the other team members, I agree with you here also. This part rang true with me and I take him at his word at that. I bet he really does miss the character, even though I am sure JR's erratic filming schedule was a real pain in the ass for all involved. Again, such is the entertainment biz. On they cynicism front, I did find that nonsense about DoS attacks absurd and I'm sorry that you had to be the one to disseminate that BS. Rubbish. The tech was a failure of inexcusable proportions, just like it always is. Bottom line: With this guy, it's a mixture of shameless spin and outright falsehoods mixed with a little good business acumen, just a pinch of sincerity and grossly incompetent technical decision making. Same as it ever was...
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Post by Terryfic on Aug 6, 2007 17:43:57 GMT -5
I agree with Jay... The Cove has always been a rather cynical bunch. Of course, it's possible Bree was killed because it's better press. But it's also more final for the fans (and eliminates all the "bring Bree back now or I'll stop watching" posts that would surely come) and allows the story to move on without her. I've never really liked the description of the Cove as being cynical - I think of it more as comically critical. Making fun of the show and its creators is often far more amusing then the show itself. As far as Bree being killed off in a finalistic way I think you are mistaken. There we many other far less ambiguous way to kill the character (See Guillotine). I have my issues with the way Bree died, and how nothing Daniel or Jonas did had any effect on the story at all, but at the same time I find it oddly appropriate with LG's history of anti climatic events. Them showing up a little too late and having the door closed on them, instead of something actually happening mirrors the entire series very well.
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Post by hyemew on Aug 6, 2007 17:52:08 GMT -5
I mean come on, with Miles's medical background I think he'd know that a heart monitor wouldn't go from pacing normally to just flatlining out of nowhere. It was so odd it made us assume they had merely unplugged her monitor (which maybe in reality they did) instead of actually killing her and fueling the notion she wasn't really dead, just appeared it.
While it does seem pretty final with what we know now, I didn't realize it at the time since I didn't think she had actually died when I first saw it. Sloppily done, and what was up with the hooded guy? Was he part of the ceremony? All I hope is that the "ceremony" was not a codeword for the blood-transfusion we witnessed. As terry says this oddly fits with their history of anti-climactic letdowns.
And what the
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Post by brokenkid on Aug 6, 2007 19:10:52 GMT -5
On they cynicism front, I did find that nonsense about DoS attacks absurd and I'm sorry that you had to be the one to disseminate that BS. Rubbish. The tech was a failure of inexcusable proportions, just like it always is. Actually, the programmer has proof of the DoS attacks. He was finally able to block it Friday evening, and that's when the site became available again. They've been getting pretty relentless IP attacks over the past few days, which resulted in the sluggishness of the forum. I mean come on, with Miles's medical background I think he'd know that a heart monitor wouldn't go from pacing normally to just flatlining out of nowhere. It was so odd it made us assume they had merely unplugged her monitor (which maybe in reality they did) instead of actually killing her and fueling the notion she wasn't really dead, just appeared it. I agree that the death itself could have been handled better. I would have liked to have seen something more realistic, something a little more clear. I would have liked one more chance for her to talk to the guys, even if it resulted in a corny death scene. But such was not to be...
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Post by curiousgeorge on Aug 6, 2007 19:33:40 GMT -5
Actually, the programmer has proof of the DoS attacks. He was finally able to block it Friday evening, and that's when the site became available again. They've been getting pretty relentless IP attacks over the past few days, which resulted in the sluggishness of the forum. Fair enough sir, the monkey is wrong again . I stand corrected. As usual.
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Post by suze900 on Aug 6, 2007 19:45:15 GMT -5
They've been getting pretty relentless IP attacks over the past few days, which resulted in the sluggishness of the forum. A negative aspect of having successfully marketed and publicized the 12 in 12, I would imagine.
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Post by ApotheosisAZ on Aug 6, 2007 19:46:30 GMT -5
Actually, the programmer has proof of the DoS attacks. He was finally able to block it Friday evening, and that's when the site became available again. They've been getting pretty relentless IP attacks over the past few days, which resulted in the sluggishness of the forum. BK, unless you have seen this proof yourself, then this is simply more of the same. I respect your integrity, but I was on the site when the myspace links were replaced with the YouTube links. The result was a significant download speed increase. Coincidence or correlation? I respect the decision to sell the 12 in 12 in an exclusive deal with myspace. The C's deserve to make money off of their entertaining products. If they choose to invest wisely in better technology, then they should be able to expect more visitors to the site. CG is right.
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