ka
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Post by ka on Sept 7, 2006 13:33:50 GMT -5
Or maybe Daniel keeps it secret along with her Parents. or, or, or. But-- of course this is a fabrication? You didnt think I meant she REALLY was, did you? LOL! Touché!
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Post by waffle on Sept 7, 2006 13:38:34 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more the Bree=Cassie theory takes on water. Open mind though, young Jedi
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Post by crackityjonesjr on Sept 7, 2006 13:39:38 GMT -5
Well, the really funny thing about all this is . . . the idea that it's real makes the most sense! I know! Even the YouTube comments by her and Daniel read as though they were actually written by teenagers. The use of slang, the relatively poor grammar...
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Post by suri on Sept 7, 2006 13:43:02 GMT -5
Now, don't get me wrong, I HOPE it's not real. My "real makes sense" idea is the pessimist in me. I'm a writer, and have become more and more intrigued in alternate narrative forms - if nothing else, this whole thing has pointed me to ARG as an interesting art-form - and the LG15 phenomenon is a fascinating way of telling a story, so I hope that it gets more interesting rather than petering out as the school-year begins (which is what would happen with two kids doing a Youtube diary over a long, boring summer).
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Post by morninglory on Sept 7, 2006 13:43:17 GMT -5
Well, the really funny thing about all this is . . . the idea that it's real makes the most sense! to be honest suri, I've been thinking the same thing. I know it's not real, she's obviously lying about a few very key things. But to be honest, I think the basic structure of what they're saying can be followed. edit:and to add on, I agree about the youtube comments. that's what makes me lean towards some elements of 'real' the most. The randomness and unnecessary posts make me think an acting troupe or corporation is not behind it. Granted, many people are leaning towards the ARG theory which, for all i know in my little experience with it, could entail the clever comments... but still. the people she chooses to comment back, what she says, the time put into the comments...something seems real about it.
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Post by suri on Sept 7, 2006 13:46:41 GMT -5
My perpsective on "real" is also slightly askew as a Performance Studies scholar. I've done a lot of work/reading on the construction of self (see, for example, Irving Goffman's "The Presentation of the Self In EveryDay Life") and put a lot of thought into the creation of personality.
Think about it. I'm not the same person here as I am when I turn to my office-mate and talk, and not the same person to him as I am to my boss, my parents, my friends, a girl I'm trying to seduce, a friend I haven't spoken to in years, a friend I had drinks with last night, etc., etc. We construct who we are based on the situation, and think about how often that leads us to change/alter/construct/exaggerate/falsify a story. So, surely, LG15 is a different person on the camera than she is when living her life, in it's various personality-modes. It explains the heightened melodrama of it - she enjoys playing that role - and still allows her to be more or less who and what she says she is.
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Post by morninglory on Sept 7, 2006 13:51:30 GMT -5
I understand. When I say real, I mean that she's not as much of a full blown hoax as others think. I'd even fit her in the real category if she and daniel turn out to be two kids having fun and fabricating the story line. To me, there's still the sense of reality where their only motive was to have fun. No professional lighting or paychecks coming in, just a cute product of boredom.
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Post by johnnypanic13 on Sept 7, 2006 13:54:19 GMT -5
I'm a writer, and have become more and more intrigued in alternate narrative forms - if nothing else, this whole thing has pointed me to ARG as an interesting art-form - and the LG15 phenomenon is a fascinating way of telling a story, so I hope that it gets more interesting rather than petering out as the school-year begins Agreed. The concept of telling a story this way has kept me hooked. I'm hoping that if nothing else this plants the seed in a few fertile minds and other people play around with this new form.
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Post by kayleigh724 on Sept 7, 2006 13:58:48 GMT -5
Even the YouTube comments by her and Daniel read as though they were actually written by teenagers. The use of slang, the relatively poor grammar... The grammar is actually one of the things that doesn't seem to fit well for me. For someone as well-read and articulate as Bree, I find it surprising that she makes so many errors. I expect a certain amount of shorthand and typos, but errors like than/then, for example, I wouldn't expect her to make. Also there's one comment where she has to look up the meaning of "denoument." I'm nowhere near as smart as Bree, but I remember learning about denoument in school when I was nine. Granted, it was a gifted class, but still. Not that there aren't plausible explanations for that. It's possible that Bree is just more science minded, and math/science geniuses like that tend to be less conscious of grammar. It's also possible that someone else posts the comments or that LG15 makes a concerted effort to type like an average teenager. Either way, I think the girl in the videos and the girl in the comments sound like two completely different people most of the time.
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Post by newone on Sept 7, 2006 14:30:35 GMT -5
The crazy thing about this whole theory is that it's mostly based on the fact that a random e-mail was recieved. I sure hope that we get some kind of indication from bree or daniel that it actually has to do with them.
otherwise, it's either 1) totally apart from the whole story and a total dead-end (much like danielbeast's myspace), or else 2) it's totally apart and yet possibly being incorporated (like someone pointed out on the ARG thread)
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Post by Alissa Brooke on Sept 7, 2006 14:31:22 GMT -5
This theory was not based on a random E-mail. This theory was based on elements I saw in the videos. <3
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Post by newone on Sept 7, 2006 14:57:20 GMT -5
I know, perhaps I should have put this with Virgina's question.
I do hope that it's part of though, it would totally add a really great layer of....well...whatever this is.
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Post by lg15fan on Sept 8, 2006 11:07:16 GMT -5
Just seems to me that this is getting far to dark, it's suppose to be teenage entertainment, no? I don't recall Bree or anyone involved ever telling us that this was for teenage entertainment. Sure, I think the majority of YouTube users probably ARE teenagers but then you see geriatric1927 posting videos, and the giant amount of people his age posting video replies, etc. I think these videos are for anyone who is interested in them. Also, entertainment teens are interested in can be VERY dark. I'm thinking movies like Donnie Darko, Blair Witch Project, Saved! (which wasn't that dark but was very much religious and offended a lot of people).. not to mention shows like The O.C. which are for teenage entertainment and deal with topics like sexual harassment, murder, drug overdose, violence, etc. I don't think speculating on whether or not Bree was molested or had relations with her teacher is going too deep into it because it was Bree herself who led us to these speculations. If she hadn't brought it up in the first place (which I found odd because I was not expecting the video to take that turn AT ALL), we wouldn't be led to think these things. Which leads me to believe Bree or the people involved wanted us to speculate on this. I really like your theory Alissa. I think it could be very possible.
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Post by wixy15 on Sept 8, 2006 12:31:09 GMT -5
Just seems to me that this is getting far to dark, it's suppose to be teenage entertainment, no? I don't recall Bree or anyone involved ever telling us that this was for teenage entertainment. Sure, I think the majority of YouTube users probably ARE teenagers but then you see geriatric1927 posting videos, and the giant amount of people his age posting video replies, etc. I think these videos are for anyone who is interested in them. Also, entertainment teens are interested in can be VERY dark. I'm thinking movies like Donnie Darko, Blair Witch Project, Saved! (which wasn't that dark but was very much religious and offended a lot of people).. not to mention shows like The O.C. which are for teenage entertainment and deal with topics like sexual harassment, murder, drug overdose, violence, etc. I don't think speculating on whether or not Bree was molested or had relations with her teacher is going too deep into it because it was Bree herself who led us to these speculations. If she hadn't brought it up in the first place (which I found odd because I was not expecting the video to take that turn AT ALL), we wouldn't be led to think these things. Which leads me to believe Bree or the people involved wanted us to speculate on this. I really like your theory Alissa. I think it could be very possible. I understand your point about the teenage enterainment and that there is a large differences between the people that watch the video. What makes this different is that is out there on a public site, it could be mis-taken for a real video-blog by someone. When you go to watch the film, you choose that film because it interests you. These you can just watch, anyone can watch, I just think its a little bit harsh, IMO.
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ka
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Post by ka on Sept 8, 2006 13:09:47 GMT -5
When you go to watch the film, you choose that film because it interests you. These you can just watch, anyone can watch, I just think its a little bit harsh, IMO. But I saw Swordfish, for example, with some friends and when we came out of the cinema, they were like "Yeah, great film" and that shocked me. It was utter garbage that celebrated some worm who thought he had the right to prosecute a private war. A nasty film with a poisonous message. But it frigging sparkled technically... A medium that actively promotes something other than passive consumption is worth searching for and exploring. LG15 has too many problems in its script and presentation to be an ideal example, but its flagged the possiblity, whatever the makers intentions were/are. EDIT: If the makers are intending to seriously explore some really dark territory, being outed now could be the best thing to happen to them. They'll be better equiped, when the shit hits the fans, to deal with the accusations of irresponsibilty or deception.
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