brendel99
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 11:19:41 GMT -5
Hmm, re silentgay again. Jumped from the youtube vids to his user page to find ...no vids? But they were there 10 mins ago. Going back to youtube vids page, click on his username to bring up his vids list: "There are no videos for this user. "
curiouser and curiouser
edit: from silentgay's youtube page: "I don't know who is real and who is fake anymore. I keep getting messages from people telling me that bad things are going to happen to me. If that is not proof that something "fishy" is going on, I don't know what is. The best advice I was given, was to delete everything and just stay out. I'm not looking to be famous here so why bother."
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crackityjonesjr
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Post by crackityjonesjr on Sept 7, 2006 11:21:33 GMT -5
Silentgay is a lonely young kid looking for a little attention. I think the response he got from his fabrications was beyond what he had anticipated, so he pulled them.
I'm sure we can expect more of the same from others, though.
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brendel99
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 11:23:04 GMT -5
Yeah, deleted by him. Lost his nerve...
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 11:32:29 GMT -5
Didn't somebody say sg said the hs is in Pittsburgh? If that's the case nothing can add up about his story.
Also, who remembers a girl's face exactly and her name if she was only in one class for "like the first day"? How many of you would remember someone you apparently never even got a chance to talk to so well, and then said girl just happens to become an internet phenomenon a year later? He deleted the videos either 1. as part of his plan to look like he gave into the authorities (which is stupid for him though because that effectively ends his little game anyone as nobody else can see them, unless he's hoping to start getting calls from Virginia now) or 2. jsut about all the comments were heckling him/not believing him, so perhaps he realized he was getting nowhere and deleted them. Either way he appears to be a lonely loser with a sabertooth tiger mouth who wants more attention than his black nailpolish has gotten him so far in life.
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Post by intrigued2 on Sept 7, 2006 11:57:23 GMT -5
Brendel99 - what kind of threats are you receiving...?
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 12:08:17 GMT -5
;D @ intrigued2
For a sec, and being informed, as I try to be all the time, by the idea that we none of us here know each other really I thought this was a ref to: me = silentgay.
Truly intriguing. In fact I'm intrigued2.
i'm going to edit my above post where I quoted, tho not too clearly I guess, silentgay's message on his youtube page. Sorry about that.
As for what those threats were, he only mentioned them, suggesting they came from LG15's 'management' or legal team or some such. The feeling is I think that his story was just a story and he had to wrap it up somehow.
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 16:19:21 GMT -5
Ok, re silentgay - this is half serious, and this is a sort of quiz.
We know:
* He claims to have just recently discovered youtube, and LG15. * He joined youtube 2/3 days ago and while logged in has watched over 100 vids. * He posted 2 very rough and ready vids himself: * The first gets an unfavourable response (including some personal comments about his lip-rings). * The 2nd vid references the response to the first. He's now lost the lip-rings. This vid is also badly received. * Both vids apparently shot in the same location. * He then removes both vids citing harassment from 'lawyers' and 'agents'.
Possibilities and the plausibility of each when lined up against the effect or implication of him removing the vids:
1 - the vids were a spontaneous bit of fooling around. And then got out of hand. Pulls the vids because of harassment from: * youtubers on the site * lawyers and agents of LG15 cos he hurts the brand, even though he's making stuff up * LG15 pretending to have 'lawyers' and 'agents' cos he hurts the image, even though he's making stuff up * youtubers pretending to be 'lawyers' and 'agents' because they just hate him
2 - Part of The Game. Authored by the LG15 crew. [short stay in college, science, "she's crazy", goth nails, 'rings'] Adds to intrigue, could have been planned start to finish, or could have been an experiment that failed because of general hostility, but silentgay's explanation could reflect badly on whoever's behind LG15.
3 - Disinformation from the LG15 crew. There is no Game. Except "stop trying to find us(!)" [same references as 2] Effective disinformation in that the speculation is abruptly dead-ended. It may now be impossible to debunk.
4 - Sincere, but mistaken, and at some point he realises it. Then makes up a story to cover his embarassment. There is harassment from: * youtubers and whoever else, but it isn't a factor.
5 - Sincere, but mistaken, tho doesn't know he's mistaken. Just pulls the plug because of harassment from: * youtubers on the site * lawyers and agents of LG15 cos he hurts the brand, even though he's mistaken, * LG15 pretending to have 'lawyers' and 'agents' cos he hurts the image, even though he's mistaken. * youtubers pretending to be 'lawyers' and 'agents' because they just really really hate him
6 - Sincere, and accurate, but he's not sure about it, or can't prove it. Removes the vids because he's being harassed by: * lawyers and agents of LG15 * LG15 pretending to have 'lawyers' and 'agents' * youtubers pretending to be 'lawyers' and 'agents' because they really really really hate him. Or if: * He is contacted by LG15 directly
7 - Sincere, and accurate, and he knows it. Removes the vids because he's being harassed: * by real lawyers and agents * LG15 pretending to be 'lawyers' and 'agents' * youtubers pretending to be 'lawyers' and 'agents' because they (frankly) hate him. Or if: * He is contacted by LG15 directly
So (this is the quiz part) what do we think his response would be if someone messaged him privately?
A - Nothing. Why would he bother. B - Basically what he's already posted on his youtube page. If he could be bothered. C - I can't talk there's a lawyer in the room with some legal papers pointed at my head. D - something cryptic tying in with The Game (if there's a Game) E - Bree's name is xxxxx (I rlly hate that btch she was always teasing me about my lip-rings) F - Bree's name is xxxxx (I'm sure it's ok for me to tell you right?) G - I am Bree H - Hard to say. It's in Chinese. I - Other
Anway, I can think of many reasons why this isn't that readily dismissable. So the real quiz question is did anyone message him?
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crackityjonesjr
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Post by crackityjonesjr on Sept 7, 2006 17:58:54 GMT -5
I did. I pretended to believe his story and told him that I could get his message to the right people. We'll see if he responds.
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Post by hyemew on Sept 7, 2006 18:01:25 GMT -5
In my opinion, he's a total fraud not even worthy of all that work you just put into analyzing him. It was way too shoddy and ridiculously stupid to be LG-related in the first place, but my main reason for saying its not related is the utter lack of proof and by opinion he appears to be of the "attention-whore" type.
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Post by crackityjonesjr on Sept 7, 2006 18:23:11 GMT -5
I completely agree with you hyemew, but I thought that no stone should be left unturned.
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Post by socalgrl on Sept 7, 2006 18:34:47 GMT -5
Yes, and let us remember that this kind of discovery (who Bree really is) is essential and what we are waiting for. If these ARE really kids messing around, chances are the people who recognize them aren't going to have photos/yearbooks to "prove" it (unless we can really get it out of them). Perhaps the next one like this that comes out (I'm sure there will be many), I (or any one of us) can send them a non-hysterical/non-accusatory message asking for more info/a photo/etc.
Does this sound like a reasonable plan? My other concern is that we need to get to them before (and in case there exists) the LG15 team gets to them...
That said, that sg guy seemed so very, very fraudulent (as I've said in many other posts).
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Post by socalgrl on Sept 7, 2006 19:02:21 GMT -5
WHY THIS CANNOT BE A MAJOR MARKETING SCHEME BY A MAJOR CORPORATION (in my humble opinion):
Do you remember why we were unsure as to whether or not we could believe that 1) the danielbeast myspace was a fake/real or 2) the danielbeast ID was available in the old forum (for anyone to have)? I think the main reason was that we could not *believe* that whoever was behind this would have left those names available. BECAUSE we are sure that those incharge of lonelygirl15.com are in on/behind it. In point of fact, the wonderful Alissa figured this out first off and made those names off limits (a no brainer)!!
They were so clever that they bought the domain name way before the videos appeared on youtube, yet *forgot* about myspace?? Seriously, any major company branching out to do something this innovative would have covered the myspace angle (if nothing else). It would have been the first thing I'd have done along with buying every conceivable domain name(since domain names are so cheap and if it's a major company, they can afford it).
This points (to me) to this being kids messing around/art school project/etc. Essentially, this is low budget and they were not planning on this becomming as big as it has.
*just my 2 cents...maybe more like $1.50*
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Post by buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu on Sept 7, 2006 20:40:47 GMT -5
The idea that this is some Viral marketing campaign is so absurd. People who think there is some kind of professional pundit mastermind with a crew and boom mic's with professional lighting are out of their minds. That would entail such complex coordination and foolishly expansive efforts/costs. If they were to be behind this wouldn't they have logically commited to a more extravagant or entertaining concept atleast? instead of the do-nothingness backdrop of a "youtube" vlogger?. I'm sorry but I don't even think, being as big as it is that the lonelygirl15 phenomenon is going to result commercially condusive enough to justify all the effort and costs it would take to construct. Soon people will find the next big thing on youtube loenlygirl15 will fade out into obscurity like Pluto. People have really lost focus here it's just a couple of kids with general "idea" who sort've make it up as they go along it's why a lot of things don't pan out and don't hold up to scrutinous analytical observation. Besides the only conceivanle explanation for her not having been exposed by now is that she really is a loner with no friends who has been homeschooled and traveling the world for most of her life.
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brendel99
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Post by brendel99 on Sept 7, 2006 21:14:25 GMT -5
As always hyemew has firm opinions. The pros and cons of silentgay I outlined above. There was a further 'con' - he could have just messaged LG15 and said hi, and not posted a vid. Maybe he did. She could also have messaged him, and maybe she did that too. Who knows. Anyway I did message silentgay, and he did message back. Personally, I was surprised. I assume he doesn't know me from Adam. What he said consisted largely of what he posted on his page: People came out of everywhere and started threatening me. I don't know who is legit and who isn't. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if they can go after me (like they said) so it's not worth the chance. Someone obviously went to a lot of work to create this whole Lonelygirl15 saga so I'm sure they will go after anyone who tries to say anything. That is the reason I decided to delete the vids. I'm not after any fame here. I'm not an actor. I don't give a shit about this whole thing. I went on youtube for the first time 3 days ago and now I've got the world on my ass. Screw that, I have other things to do. I know how it looks. If I was on the other end, I would call me a faker too. In some backward way though, I think some of the truth came out. If this was really some "lonely girl" why would "lawyers" and "agents" attack me instantly. That's my 2 cents in the whole grand story. I note the 'announcement' in the other forum. In light of everything including the fact that he replied I'm crossing out: 1 2 3 4
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Post by dasllama on Sept 8, 2006 23:37:26 GMT -5
Where did you get 18 yrs old ? He only says she is the same age. anllama
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